Pundita is from My Time. The time where we heard an ear-shattering buzzing alarm blaring in our classroom, and then we reflex-crawled under our metal and formica desks onto the fithiest floor on earth, wondering if this was The Big One.
This wasn’t exactly a time of good protective sense, it seems. In between the air-raids, kindergarten children also lined up in the classroom for polio shots–from the same needle. Brilliant, really, eh? It’s a wonder we all lived. But the point is, we did.
For some convoluted reason, this was a time when our government actually had innocent America convinced that children hanging out on the dirty floor beneath their desks was going to protect them if Russia dropped The A Bomb on us. It was the Age of Trusting Your Government. In retrospect, it was pretty dumb.
Plenty of steel-doored bomb shelters were built in those days too, that era’s profit-from-the-suckers version of the Y2k rip-off. They were stocked to the nines with canned goods and water and —I don’t know–whatever people thought would protect them while the the End of The World was happening four feet above them. Apparently they all believed that once the smoke died down and everything around them was leveled to smouldering ash, they could emerge from their shelters and be One Of The Few Remaining Humans On Earth — while, as the B Movies warned– they slowly mutated into erupting boil-infested, monsterously deformed beasts which glowed in the dark from radiation. Like who would want to hang around alive and fall into that category?
The real point is: It didn’t happen.
Anyways, here is Pundita and her childhood “It’s going to be over” story—and more.
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Laughing at the Four Horsemen
When I was seven I was approached on a school playground by a classmate who’d not spoken to me before.
He announced without preamble, “It’s all going to die.”
When I asked what he meant he swept his hand to take in the playground, the trees and sky, and replied, “Everything. It’s all going to be killed, everything that’s alive. There’s a weapon; it’s called an A-Bomb. It’s going to kill the world.”
America in the 1950s.
I snapped, “Who told you the world was going to die?”
The boy replied, “My father.”
“How does he know this?”
“He’s an engineer. He knows these things.”
I studied the boy’s solemn face, the grave look in his eyes.
The passage of time has not dimmed my memory of the anger that came over me. That a grownup would place the weight of the world on a child struck me as horribly cruel.
I was new to the school. “What is your name?”
He replied, “Bill.”
I drew myself up to my full height and with all the certainty I could muster I said, “Bill, I am telling you that the world will not die.”
He turned over my words in silence.
Finally he asked, “How can you be sure?”
Thinking fast I replied, “Because my father is a scientist and scientists know more than engineers and my father says the world is not going to die.”
I was winging it; I figured that if the world was going to die I would have overheard the news. Some of my earliest childhood memories are of creeping back down the stairs after I’d been put to bed, then hiding behind an armchair to listen to the debates among the stream of scientists and mathematicians who visited with my father.
Bill did not seem persuaded by my assurances but from his frown of concentration as he walked away, he was at least thinking about what I’d said.
That was not enough for me.
When my father arrived home that night I flung at him, “Is it true?” Then I blurted the story.
The atom bomb caused great destruction but it was unlikely that it would kill all living things, my father told me.
“Then you must explain this to Bill’s father,” I pleaded. “And he must explain to Bill.”
I gave my parents no peace until they agreed to speak with the school principal about the situation. There followed a meeting between my father and Bill’s, who’d had no idea that his son was expecting the world to die at any minute.
A few days later Bill hailed me on the playground. The sorrow had left his face. He related that his father had told him that what my father said about the bomb was true.
“I’m going to be a scientist or engineer when I grow up. I want to stop all the bombs,” he added with confidence.
I cannot recall that we ever spoke again and I did not return to the school the next year. Yet the childhood encounter returns to mind sometimes when I contemplate situations that threaten to doom the human race.
I thought of Bill on Sunday when I checked Google News. At first I thought I’d misunderstood the headline: Team finds secret that could stem flu viruses. So I took a moment to gird myself against unwarranted exuberance before reading the article.
I had not misunderstood. The research results give hope that scientists have beaten the influenza virus at its own game. The game includes H5N1 and any of its possible recombinations.
We’re not out of the woods yet. The most feared recombination could be drawing nearer with the recent outbreak of Ebola-Reston virus in pigs in the Philippines. Ominously the pig form of the virus has already been transmitted to humans, although the few who are known to have contracted the virus did not die from it.
How the Ebola virus jumped from monkeys to pigs is still unknown. But if the Ebola pig virus should recombine with H5N1 to produce a highly infectious deadly influenza for which humans have no antibodies, the consequences are almost unbearable to think about.
If the research pans out it could be years before a super-vaccine is ready — a vaccine you take once in your life, and which is good against influenza in any form. Yet we now have a fighting chance to ward off a global killer pandemic that would be devastating to modern societies. I hope Bill has lived to hear the news.
Humanity will not go the way of the dinosaurs. We will not fail. Who dares say this? The daughter of a scientist.
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I was terrified by the “training” to hide under the desks, the learning of the different sounds of the sirens (immediate, coming, whatever). Not good for children. Polio and communism were very BAD words.
I grew up in Florida, so we talked a lot about Cuba….and Russia. My third grade teacher said once (or this is what my 8 year old mind heard) that a Russian could come over and live here and then could take over the presidency and they would rule us. At the time, you might as well have said we were in imminent danger of the devil running our country. I went home and told my parents that at the dinner table, and of course they said that wasn’t true. But I didn’t believe them because I loved my 3rd grade teacher and thought she was soooo smart.
When I tell my kids about our “drills”, they just laugh. It really is funny now, but we were serious. Someday we’ll laugh about the doomsday things we are doing now……”…..remember when we kept giving the banks gazillions of dollars thinking that we were stopping the end of life as we know it? That was as stupid as when kids used to practice sitting under desks in an atom bomb attack!”
I wonder if all that fear from grade school has made me immune to fear mongering? I suspect they may have burned me out and it lost it’s effectiveness. Anybody remember Rumsfeld’s invisible Russian submarines? How about the Swine flu panic? We never really found a case of the Swine flu, but the vaccine killed a few people.
I don’t know what happened, somewhere between lead paint and global cooling, they lost me. Anybody remember the hysteria over the coming ice age? Wooly mammoths were going to come down from Canada and start invading our cities.
The message is always the same. You’re all going to die if you don’t do exactly what the government says.
The market didn’t like the speech. DOW -142.
I didn’t watch the speech. Read the paper this AM–sounds like more of the same. The NYT boards are alive with anti-Republican and anti-Jindal stuff…gives them a target besides their wonder boy.
I know this is blasphemy on this list with the O’Reilly haters, but I am enjoying his rapid-fire reading of Bold Fresh Piece of Humanity on audio. Parts are very funny! At one point he says the kids, sans parents and lawsuits, played sports outside constantly and “we were always sweaty.” That description was so true! So did we–in St. Louis county, not Levittown. Anyhow, I don’t hate it as I guess I am supposed to. I did write and ask him what he meant when he said the health care solution was to deregulate the insurance companies. I am sure he will reply (not).
Honestly? I would rather listen to that book than one more second of Himself.
MSNBC is blaming the market crash on Jindal’s speech.
Oh God!
Very nice Pundita. Scientists and engineers and all those schooled in reality, can foresee more clearly than politicians who live by fueling touchy feely to hysteria spectrum.
Formica desks. The ones with assorted names, graphics, and words wished upon others, carved permanently into them?
Obingo card useful for all so VERY predictable flavored diarrhea from the mouth speech. Dow response telling.
Wow. So many memories flooded back while I read Uppity’s recollections and those of other readers here about That Time. Shiver.
” … whatever people thought would protect them while the the End of The World was happening four feet above them.”
I never thought of it before now but it’s probable that a great many children were traumatized by the same despair that gripped Bill.
What a terribly sad thought.
Well, thanks to one and all for your observations….
I remember those times–with being told to hide under the desk at school, my father talking about building a bomb shelter, tho he never did. The dreaded O’Reilly also talks about this–and I found it interesting to be reminded by him of all the other elections and matchups and how people felt about them. This last one is just one in a set…yet I think some of us have really zeroed in on it–maybe because of cable. And I do think this president is trying to effect too much ill-advised change when the country cannot afford it and may not even know what it is getting into.
Well MSNBC doesn’t generally run out of stretches of imagination. But if I were The Republicans, I would stop canonizing that guy. He’s not much.
Tis a home run, Comradess Pundita!
I was not traumatized though, to be honest. I would say I was desensitized. The buzzer blared. I groaned because the floor was dirty. I grudgingly got under that desk but I instinctively knew that when it comes to being bombed, that idea was bullshit.
The Civil service practice alarms near my home…….that became White Noise to me. I have a friend who owns one of those bomb shelter houses. They store all kinds of shit in there. lol. Whomever built that thing was really serious.
ATTENTION MEMBERS: I decided to kill the nested thread idea. I did this because I know there are visually impaired regulars on this board and I know that the nesting has been rough on them. I hope you understand.
UW
Thank you on the nested–is that what it’s called–thing…whew.
Nice one, Uppity and Pundita. We still had the drop and scramble in the 60′s grade school for awhile. Back when girls wore dresses to school.
Ps: on the piece below, Upp and on the McDonald’s — maybe we hail from a time when chivalry was understood as a good thing — and we felt equal on the job?
Geez. Who knew those things had changed. That is disgusting about that McDonald’s worker. Unreal.
Ugh. ps#2 — just great…..news.
http://dealbreaker.com/2009/02/the-new-noels.php
We had to duck under our desks, but I don’t think we kids took it seriously as protection. One wall of the classroom consisted of windows, which would have blown in and cut us up.
Yeah and when i hear how everyone needs “new schools” because some are thirty years old, I laugh. I think my parents went to my grammar school. It was a relic. We had bathrooms with muliple OPEN stalls facing one another. Seriously. Like a barracks. There was no air conditioning. radiators made sizzling sounds all winter. But funny, we learned how to read and write and add. Today, the focus is on everything except that. We focused on learning. Those who didn’t want to learn got tossed out at age 16. If you got in trouble, you got in more trouble when you got home. When I got home from school, my brother and I took instructions via phone on how to start dinner. My parents became successful because they worked their asses off starting a business. But let me tell you, my mother knew where we were at ALL times. And i’m not kidding. We didn’t do a thing without checking with her first.
We walked to school and it kept us thin. And if the weather was really bad, our parents got us to school one way or another. Now the whole world needs a freaking bus. It wasn’t a matter of the old joke of walking to school both ways uphill. It was just a given. You have two legs, you walk. My high school wasn’t all that close either. Why is this so horrible? I don’t get it.
We made our own lunches the night before school. Why is this so horrible? I can see helping the empoverished even though we didn’t even do that . But wouldn’t it be better to give them loaves of bread, cans of tuna, eggs, etc, show them how to make a sandwich and send them home so that they might participate in their own survival for the future? I just don’t get this coddling simpering baby sitting places our schools have become. Now they have freaking CLINICs in schools so parents don’t have to bother bringing kids to doctors. If they are sick they send them to school. Where I am a person on medicaid can take a taxi free if there’s no car. So why can’t parents get their kids to a doctor? What is the point of having kids if you want to do NOTHING to nurture them. ?
No wonder the taxpayers are bleeding.
Oh, and “class trips” were things you got to do in graduation year. The rest of the time, you sat your ass in that classroom and learned. There were no vending machines to help you gain weight. You ate lunch, you went back to classes. Then you went home.
Some of that is generalizing a bit…Some schools don’t even have the nurse now,much less a clinic. We played outside–and our parents had no idea what we were up to–we had to come for dinner when called.We threw cherry bombs in the neighbor’s pond and got chased by her and her shotgun. (Notice we HAD cherry bombs to throw.) Our parents never knew. We climbed trees–always got scraped up, beestung, whatever, and never mentioned it. Now, as a parent, I wonder f they did know–I always let my kid find her own way–and it didn’t work out as well…
Truly, I wasn’t generalizing. In NY the school districts are money grubbing pigs. They find out there’s available state money and they actually MAKE UP projects to grow their heirarchy. None of it ever improves the literacy rate either. It’s horrible. Money wasted by the hundreds of millions. Programs in place and then 180 degree reversing…paying for it twice. Shut down schools, build new ones. Then decide to open schools that were shut down. There aren;t superintendents, there are ten superintendents. They call each other CEOs. They raise taxes every year and nothing changes in terms of learning. They are in perpetual waste, constantly looking for programs that add more employees that don’t even go near the kids, and the literacy rate is in the crapper. Yes, where i am there are clinics in schools. I am not kidding.
I know some schools have clinics–some don’t have nurses, though…it’s uneven.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-12-13-school-nurses_x.htm
Nurses also have to give out medications now and manage diseases, when they are even paid for in the system…I have written on this many times.
I agree the edu system is horrible. I came from the DC system…or rather the parochial system bec the DC system was so horrible. Then AZ was just as bad. But the feds don’t improve anything.
I spent 18 mos trying to get a stall door on a bathroom in my kid’s DC public school…18 mos! I wrote to EVERYONE! I had to do a math newsletter because they would not teach the multiplication tables–said that had to be done at home.I could go on.
I think I read that DC spends the most per student and look how great their schools are. The more power we give the larger governments, the more we will spend and the crappier the schools will be. Those bureaucrats haven’t spent a day in one of our local schools. I’m not saying all decisions and all funding should be local, but the more the better. We elect the school board members and light up their telephones (and meetings) if we don’t like what is going on.
Also, it bugs me to no end to hear people whine about their schools not having money. Our state held money back from local systems here. They dealt with it. Elementary art teachers were cut from the budget a few years back. We do fundraising and pay their salaries. We are not breaking records here, in part because we try to educate all kids and encourage them all to take the tests, so our scores are not off the charts. It’s not perfect, but the school board members live in our neighborhoods and really do listen.
We have nurses, but I wouldn’t call where they work clinics. They can dispense medicine and call me to come pick my child up and take them to the dr. We are taking the responsibility of parenting out of the hands of parents.
With the latest budget cuts, the state is talking about removing nurses from the budget. I think our system would figure out a way to keep them, though.
They need to remove all those administrators, assistants and assistants to assistants, relatives and friends, none of whom have a thing to do with teaching. That’s what they need to remove. Schools are running like 1970s corporations. Principals get CEO salaries. The problem with our schools is nobody is focusing on the actual purpose of school.
Nurses are needed. But they aren’t part of the heirarchy so they get dumped.
And all of this administering of meds to kids to keep them calm. Schools have taken over parental roles. I would never stand for this if I had a child in school. Never.
UW at 155 and 158,
ya coulda grown up right next door with those recollections.
LOL Crier. We went to different schools together!
ga, that’s what a school nurse is SUPPOSED to do. Determine if you are sick and call your parents. If you are in dire straights, call an ambulance and then call your parents. That would be the DAY I would let some school dispense medications to MY kid.
Hey gang, how do you like Freedom Fairy’s new Austerity Header on the blog?
These are meds prescribed and needing to be taken during the day–not something the nurse comes up with like a Bufferin for cramps. Remember Bufferin? I am geezing today for sure. Kids are on insulin and of course–as you say–ritalin and other big drugs. I meant to mention the banner–very basic. I liked it!
Freedom Fairy does it again – great header.
Ah memories….I remember when they would have the civil defense messages on the Buffalo Television stations. White Screen with picture of a radio transmitter, then they would broadcast the siren alert. And of course, the under the desk exercises, and yes, the floors were filthy. Remember, in those days girls had to wear dresses or skirts to school (perish the thought of pants on a female), so we got the worst of the dirt. Seems ridiculous today, but back in the day it was frightening, and totally unnecessary IMHO.
- I read this yesterday on RBO and was flooded with those The Russians are Coming memories. Pulling shades, drawing the drapes, falling to the floor and crawling for cover. The words “air raid” and sirens blasting. The Noon O’clock blare every Wednesday. Would you believe no one ever even explained? Thank gosh the Beatles came to America. Finally had an inkling as to why the adults were so uptight. ???
Spent most of my childhood scared shitless. Nuns were gonna get you in the end anyway, I thought. “Now while you are down there, say an act of Contrition. The Bishop slapped my face…thought he didn’t like my confirmation name. No wonder I’m so effed up come to think of it.
UW, I found myself nodding right along with each of your posts on the current state of our public school system. Just don’t forget homework. I see my sister’s children (1st and 3rd grade) with over an hour of homework almost every night. I never had homework at that age, the age when most moms stayed at home and might have actually had the time for such things.
The whole damn thing is insane.
Absolutely Love the new FF header!! So appropo for these days and this chat. I learned to read and ‘draw’ words due to the “cat” symbol. Just a babe and caught on to the “AT” family because of “cat” being a school symbol in children’s books. Still doodle those 2 circles with ears and a curly tail to this day. First grade nun didn’t like me because Dick, Jane and Judy were oh so boring. Puff was cute. But Peyton Place was so much better.
Dirt on the floors? You must be kidding. NO! Now that is scary having been of the feminine gender in parochial school. Perish the thought.
Holy Colitis!
The kids that I am aware of who are getting dispensed medicine mostly have potentially life-threatening illnesses…. It is a help b/c I have one just diagnosed with asthma. He can carry his own inhaler, but if something happens and it doesn’t do the trick or if he loses it and needs it, there is extra med with the nurse, and she would know what to do. My friend’s boy has diabetes and has to test his own blood often through the day. He is pretty self-sufficient, but does go to the nurse’s office to do it, just in case he needs help and/or insulin. They have called and asked if they could give an Advil for a headache. (Of course, I know our nurses and they know my kids. I will let them tell me if they think it’s a “he/she’ll make it” or a “probably need to come get him/her”.) Our elementary nurse gives “the talk” in 5th grade, which is mostly a personal hygiene discussion with a little very mild intro to reproduction to the boys and girls (separately)…….one of those rites of passage I think is sort of funny/embarrassing/but they like having to go through it with their friends sort of (parents can read the transcript). I think our nurse’s salaries are money well-spent, in my experience. Of course, we’re not handing out condoms in our middle schools and using the banana to demonstrate, for better or for worse! haha
However, there are lots of things I would cut out of the budget, for sure! There is a state-mandated drug awareness week. My littlest one came home this fall with daily ribbons saying “Just Say No to Drugs”….and hung them across her mirror……she is 7…….
OT…poor woman attacked by maniacal chimp…just wondering if anyone thinks it is humane to “save” her knowing it took her sight forever and her hands are gone and she is in an induced coma…just wondering how she would feel if her personal wishes were known…maybe this is not the place to bring it up but I’ve been haunted by her suffering and deprivation of dignity. Who knows, but wanted to share this thought among friends. I know what I would prefer abhoring the thought of hundreds of surgeries ahead of me for naught, I gather.
Forgive me, Please, if my OT is offensive. Truly moved for this poor woman. I am calling upon our Source to grant her peace, no matter what.
I Love the new header, UW!!! Cool font, too!
Fabulous, FF!
Added this update to my post: (with url that isn’t showing up here)
“Crossposted at Uppity Woman with a great introduction that invokes the era in America when schoolchildren routinely dived under their desk when the air raid siren went off. For anyone looking for reminiscences about life in Cold War USA, Uppity’s comments (and those of a number of her reader’s in the comment section) are the bomb, if you’ll pardon the expression.”
I remember those days also. It did seem stupid to get under our desks. In my first 3 years it didn’t happen because iIwent to a one room country school and we couldn’t hear the sirens out there. We didn’t have running water or bathrooms and this was in the early fifties. My parents were school teachers and started out teaching in one room schools. Said it was the best way for kids to learn. I agree.
Also, I am a nurse and have done and still do some school nursing. Nurses do give out medications to children who have them prescribed. So many ADD medicatins. It is one of the most misdiagnosed conditions. Also, school nurses have a lot more responsibilities like doing hearing and eye exams,etc. There is a lot of documentaion on everyting and paper work.
Nancy, ADD meds are the perfect way to make things easy for parents and teachers. You take a spirited kid and you medicate him so he’s nice and calm. Pathetic, really.