Truly there should be head explosions over in Cheetoland. Their messiah has forsaken them.
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Cheney Two, Obama Nothing, Clinton – a Thousand
While I have long thought VP Dick Cheney was the devil incarnate, no one ever said he wasn’t a smart guy. Cheney was also arguably our most unpopular Vice President evah! He looked to be hiding out in a bunker most of the eight years President Bush was in office, and was probably lucky to slink away without jail time. Who’d’a thunk he’d be getting a big bump in the polls for defending Bush era national security decisions and their safety record. He also rocked our new President, a man of enormous personal popularity, back on his heels. Obama made the terrible mistake of elevating Dick Cheney to his own level by insisting on doing dueling speeches with him the week before on the topic of national security. Why President Obama would wish to draw more attention to Mr. Cheney, I will never know. Well, now, Cheney has trumped Obama again… and wait ‘til you hear how…on Gay Marriage. Yep. You heard me.
According to Jake Tapper of ABC News:
Cheney was asked at the National Press Club, “given recent events in Iowa and elsewhere, is some form of legalized gay marriage inevitable for the United States?”
“I think that freedom means freedom for everyone,” Cheney said.
“People ought to be free to enter into any kind of union they wish, any kind of arrangement they wish,” said the laconic former veep, whose daughter Mary is lesbian, and has a son, Sam, with her partner Heather Poe.
Cheney said “…The question of whether or not there ought to be a federal statute to protect this, I don’t support. I do believe that historically the way marriage has been regulated is at the state level. It has always been a state issue and I think that is the way it ought to be handled, on a state-by-state basis. … But I don’t have any problem with that. People ought to get a shot at that.”
I know that VP Cheney has a lesbian daughter and all, but let me put it to you this way, if the world’s most reactionary VP, a/k/a my name is Dick “just call me Mr. Neo Con” Cheney can make a statement as progressive as that – for him – what the hell excuse does our most progressive President evah have for not coming out in favor of gay marriage, or at the very least, at long last repealing “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” – since he has an overwhelmingly Democratic congress and with his popularity, he clearly has the political capital to do it.
Unintentionally perhaps (tee hee), President Obama is receiving a not so gentle nudge from another quarter. Last month, our SHE-ro, Secretary of State Clinton vowed to confer “equal benefits to partners of homosexual US diplomats stationed overseas” (H/T to RRR Amy for her excellent story) and Clinton now takes this a step further:
Clinton vows to fight for gay rights abroad:
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton vowed Monday to fight for gay rights, calling for all nations to stop violence and discrimination based on sexual orientation.
Clinton made the appeal ahead of the 40th anniversary this month of New York’s Stonewall Riots, often seen as the launch of the US gay rights movement, in which gays and lesbians fought back against police who raided their bars.
“The example set by those fighting for equal rights in the United States gives hope to men and women around the world who yearn for a better future for themselves and their loved ones,” said Clinton, a former senator from New York.
While acknowledging that gays and lesbians still had a long path to equality in the United States, Clinton deplored that gays in some parts of the world live in constant fear of arrest or violence.
“The persecution of gays and lesbians is a violation of human rights and an affront to human decency, and it must end,” she said.
“As secretary of state, I will advance a comprehensive human rights agenda that includes the elimination of violence and discrimination against people based on sexual orientation or gender identity.”
Under President Barack Obama, the United States has switched gears from the previous George W. Bush administration by supporting a United Nations resolution calling for the global decriminalization of homosexuality.
Homosexuality is punishable by death in seven countries — Iran, Mauritania, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, the United Arab Emirates and Yemen.
Clinton in her statement saluted the service of “our lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender employees in Washington and around the world.”
And what is the President doing? Tapper of ABC News reports POTUS Honors LGBT Pride Month by Not Supporting Same Sex Marriage, While Cheney Disagrees. Ouch!
Saying he’s “proud to be the first President to appoint openly LGBT candidates to Senate-confirmed positions in the first 100 days of an Administration,” President Obama issued a presidential proclamation Monday in honor of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month.
To LGBT activists, however, some of the omissions on his proclamation likely spoke louder than the words included.
Then, Tapper offers an UPDATE at the bottom of his post:
It turns out that Mr. Obama’s claim “to be the first President to appoint openly LGBT candidates to Senate-confirmed positions in the first 100 days of an Administration” isn’t accurate, since by April 1993 President Bill Clinton had nominated two openly gay Assistant Secretaries.
Double ouch! Always trying to omit Bill from the equation, isn’t he? And never mind the fact that Hillary Clinton has marched in every Gay Pride parade imaginable and has spoken out for Gay rights many times.
Mentioning his administration’s international efforts to decriminalize homosexuality, the President said he would continue to “support measures to bring the full spectrum of equal rights to LGBT Americans” — enhancing hate crimes laws, supporting civil unions, outlawing discrimination in the workplace, ensuring adoption rights, and ending the existing “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy for gays and lesbians in the armed services.
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That equal justice under law did not include, in the president’s recitation, perhaps the highest profile issue on the gay-dar – same sex marriage, or what LGBT activists call “marriage equality.”Interestingly, the presidential proclamation came the same day that Mr. Obama’s conservative nemesis, former Vice President Dick Cheney, seemed to say he supported same-sex marriage as long as the rules are determined on a state-by-state basis.
I am still agape at this: Dick Cheney trumping Obama on the gay marriage issue. I mean Hillary always trumped Obama on gay rights, women’s rights, too, of course, but Cheney? Certainly, it is easy for Mr. Cheney to talk now that he’s no longer in office and can do nothing to affect policy, but he clearly enjoys this limelight and as well, being a thorn in the President’s side. And good for Jake Tapper for making sure to point out the following in his article:
President Obama today also made no mention of when or how the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy would end, though he said it would be done “in a way that strengthens our Armed Forces and our national security.
“As long as the promise of equality for all remains unfulfilled, all Americans are affected,” the president said. “If we can work together to advance the principles upon which our Nation was founded, every American will benefit.”
But Mr. President – you are the one leaving that promise unfulfilled. What about Dan Choi? You said you wished you could do more about his situation. Sir, you are the POTUS! And what does repealing DADT have to do with our national security? But I gotta love my girl Hill for her statements, which bear repeating:
“The persecution of gays and lesbians is a violation of human rights and an affront to human decency, and it must end,” she said.
“As secretary of state, I will advance a comprehensive human rights agenda that includes the elimination of violence and discrimination against people based on sexual orientation or gender identity.”
While the article quoting Secretary Clinton makes mention of the fact that this is Obama reversing Bush’s old policies, since this man has never actually participated in any Gay pride event prior to this, and gave his voters very mixed messages on Prop 8 in California, he is again making a show without the substance to back it up. Further, Bret Baier of FOX News discussed Cheney’s statements with his panel yesterday and they all felt Obama would shortly be coming under great pressure to act.
Come on, Mr. President. We’re waiting.
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I happen to think Liz Cheney makes alot of sense. Seems like the G.O.P. may become the party of strong women–Palin, Bauchman, Cheney. They seem to be the only ones with cajones.
She’s bright and attactive and very eloquent, but she reminds me of her sarcastic father unfortunately. Minus the snarl, of course. So far.
I don’t think you are going to get very many democratic crossovers with her unless she shows a little but of the Human tendencies.
She has my vote thus far. I am hoping to see her on the next GOP ticket. No matter what folks thought about daddy he was brilliant and it was maybe his delivery that was off. He is not a people person and he is too quick to react but one thing is true the Bin Ladens feared him and that we need. What we need along side Liz is a money wise person but again I am not going to hold my breath and think the people in this country are ready to face the real issues and dump the crap that never belonged in government to begin with much less a Republic which is what the states are not a democracy.
Now that is one sweet hot cup of “I told you so” for the ‘bots to drink up.
But wait…Cheney is more popular than Pelosi.
That is really scary.
Not scary he is smart she is ignorant and that should scare you more.
This election has made me rethink and reverse most of my prior opinions about alot of politicians. Formerly an avid Democrat and Bush/Cheney hater–MSNBC groupie, it was still impossible NOT TO SEE how the media was manipulating this election, how corrupt the Democrats were and still are, that they were every bit as vile and greedy and hypocritical as the Republicans. Sorry but I find Pelosi, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Rahm, Obama, Axelrod and the whole disgusting Chicago political tyrants more dangerous and destructive to our freedoms than Cheney. Acorn alone is enough to warrant impeachment.
This election has made me rethink and reverse most of my prior opinions about alot of politicians
You have a lot of company on this site!
. Heck, everybody is more popular than Nancy right now. She really screwed the pooch when she went after the CIA. I almost feel sorry for her because this is going to bite her off and on forever.
listing, to be honest, I find both parties to be odious and none of them seem to be bothering with the needs of anybody but themselves and their contributing friends. This is sad, but i really believe it to be true.
How did Nancy’s approval rating and Congress for that matter go up. It was a 9% before the election and they’ve done nothing but to try and destroy the country since.
i like Liz too.mainly because she doesn’t snarl.yet anyway…
“what the hell excuse does our most progressive President evah have for not coming out in favor of gay marriage, or at the very least, at long last repealing ‘Don’t Ask Don’t Tell’”
Think Rick Warren, an exploitee on hold.
Starboard,
Right on, as usual. Once again you give voice to my thoughts.
Mary, on June 5th, 2009 at 5:55 PM Said:
“what the hell excuse does our most progressive President evah have for not coming out in favor of gay marriage, or at the very least, at long last repealing ‘Don’t Ask Don’t Tell’”
Think Rick Warren, an exploitee on hold.
Because he has two much more important things to deal with. One bashing the very country he is elected to defend and protect and serve and the other is how to make a fat cat profit forcing us to buy his new government motors death traps.
Not to go off here but I have been doing some thinking about this take over of GM. Yes Uppity here she goes again lol deal with it you have for several years now lmao.
While we as taxpayers got angry about our forceful pumping of money into a business that under the watchdog eye of our government was doomed to fail and one of the things ” HIMSELF” mandated they do is to close dealerships. Now Ford took out many on the QT I never read about the big one close to me going out it was done in a couple of days. Chrysler and GM were done much more publicly why is that ? Also when was it ok for the government to force closure of a private business ? Dealerships bought the product from the manufacturer and sold it. If they were funded by say GM they would have these cars and trucks shipped out and split the profit with GM they do not. These cars and trucks are purchased like stores purchase product and mark it up to make profit. Does this not bother anyone ?
Also The ” GREAT ONE” wants us to by their product and keep the auto industry afloat but it is he who forced these closures and now pushes his ” go green” crappola on us yet wants us to burn how much in fuel to travel 50 or more miles for many to a dealership to buy them ? Also he has taken dealer competition completely out of the picture and many are over looking that too. You own 60% of what ? Are you going to get an owners discount when you buy this crap ?
More importantly to me is when it was ok to steal the right to do business away and telling dealerships they are out leaves a very very bad taste in my mouth. They have to dump inventory now at a loss it sits bad with me really.
Shades of the company general store coming into my minds view.
I think there’s a change coming with Republicans and gay marriage. If I were to vote on the issue, I would vote no (sorry, but I don’t think it serves a valuable purpose for the country as opposed to straight marriage) but I sure as hell don’t care any more if it passes. Politically, it’s not really worth fighting against. There is far too much going on that means something in this country.
At this point, the Republican Party needs to go back to Goldwater and not Regan. Strong national defense, lower taxes, less federal government over states and get out of people’s private lives. The Democrats are now the party all about money. Take money from people who have any and give it to their donors. And if some of it accidentally hits the poor, lucky for them.
this whole messy corrupt business about the dealerships and bailouts and Unions–it reeks of facism. I believe
that Eric Holder and Tim Geithner are extremely dangerous.Funny how unimportant and impotent Howard Dean looks now. Used and discarded. Guess the real litmus test for patriotism will eventually be willingness to admit that you were wrong supporting this monster.
P4, I kind of got the feeling Cheney was setting the stage for that. I think it is really wise, P4. It would do wonders for the base and since Mr. Flippy has effectively screwed gays and not only shows no interest in their cause, but has shown himself to be a bald faced liar, the republicans could most certainly gain by laying off the gay smacking and leave them alone, maybe even help them. Right now, much like any women with brains coupled with wisdom, they are disenfranchised by the party.
Outstandingly accurate.
If I were the republicans, I would also go after him for his blatently piss poor speech clip on ‘women’s rights”. This was just such an insult to women everywhere that it could get some great traction.
Yeah, but there is a lot of static out there from every “feminist” group and they all think Republicans are troglodytes.
Look at the hatef*** list from Playboy. The few prominent women in media who bothered to talk about it have responded with “that’s a terrible thing to say but Michelle Malkin, etc brought it upon themsleves.”
It’s that bad, Uppity.
P, these are people you are not going to get interested anyways. The fact is, there are millions of Real Feminists who aren’t Ms Magazine nonsense and who don’t subscribe to feminism applying only to people they endorse. Forget these people, they are lost causes and are caught in their own irony. They have become the very thing they accuse you of being. Forget them. Focus on the disenfranchised…..and MEAN it.
And move some of those old farts with baggage out of the way, P4. I see guys like Newt and it’s like looking at an old boyrfriend i thought I got rid of 10 years ago, right there in my face again.
I did not mind one darn bit that Obama stole Utah’s governor seriously it was a boon for Utah. That man had to be the first governor we have had that was making Utah join the ranks of the rest of the country and destroying it.
Utah has always been a different place to live seriously it had laws and they for the most part are obeyed. It was a state that you could feel safe in. It also was a state that kept a balanced budget. Heck when other states were in the red Utah was in the black and had a surplus at the end of the year and it’s residents got back some of their taxes. Now to me that spelled smart and progress. Unemployment was basically non existent. This ass hat gets in and wham we are right there with the rest so thank you Mr Prez for taking him because we are now seeing how the Lt Gov. can do and we are also getting our next one lined up and ready.
Say what you will but conservatism does work and not the kind we have in DC today but the true conservative.
A true conservative is not one of these right wing extremists but they do believe in hard work, taking care of yourself and your family and not depending on government and others, they do believe in church and God, and they have money and a plan for the future.
I like Mark Shurtleff who is now our AG but I think most likely will be our next Governor and watch for him to make himself known I am betting.
Now as for our sitting Prez. You know I thought Bill Clinton was an embarrassment to the US and I worried about GW who single handedly was making other countries despise us but never have I been as worried or upset as I am today with this uncouth piece of low life mocking our allies and getting into to bed with the very ones that want to wipe out Israel and us. I hope that before he finishes his work let’s say by years end we can get a large enough number of people mad enough to demand a recall and get him out.
About his birth certificate I just do not get it how it is not public never will and that in and of it’s self ought to scare you. Maybe his birth certificate is actually a letter of apology from a condom company.
I read a letter the other day that made me feel so good I want to share it.
THANKS AUSTRALIA THIS IS AWESOME
Written by an Australian Dentist
To Kill an American
You probably missed this in the rush of news, but there was actually
a report that someone in Pakistan had published in a newspaper, an
offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American.
So an Australian dentist wrote an editorial the following day to let
everyone know what an American is . So they would know when they
found one. (Good one, mate!!!!)
‘An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German,
Spanish , Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian,
Mexican, African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian,
Iranian, Asian, or Arab, or Pakistani or Afghan.
An American may also be a Comanche, Cherokee, Osage, Blackfoot,
Navajo, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes known as
native Americans.
An American is Christian , or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or
Muslim. In fact, there are more Muslims i n America than in
Afghanistan.The only difference is that in America they are free to
worship as each of them chooses.
An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he will
answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming
to speak for the government and for God.
An American lives in the most prosperous land in the history of the
world.
The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of
Independence , which recognizes the God given right of each person to
the pursuit of happiness..
An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every
other nation in the world in their time of need, never asking a thing
in return.
When Afghanistan was over-run by the Soviet army 20 years ago,
Americans came with arms and supplies to enable the people to win
back their country!
As of the morning of September 11, Americans had given more than any
other nation to the poor in Afghanistan .
The national symbol of America , The Statue of Liberty , welcomes
your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores,
the homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built
America .
Some of them were working in the Twin Towers the morning of September
11 , 2001 earning a better life for their families. It’s been told
that the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 different
countries, cultures, and first languages, including those that aided
and abetted the terrorists.
So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did
General Tojo , and Stalin , and Mao Tse-Tung, and other blood-thirsty
tyrants in the world. But, in doing so you would just be killing
yourself . Because Americans are not a particular people from a
particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of
freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an
American
It’s axiomatic that there’s no worse homophobe than a closet case. I wonder how many cute boy interns are bringing pizza to the Oval these days.
I think you misspelled oral.
NES,
Do you remember our discussions last year about obama being on the down low? How attuned to reality we were.
Not his speech writer, though, NES. He’s far more attracted to cardboard humping.
Anybody see GM’s new Tee Vee commercial? All that’s missing is Iacocca to schmooze the BS.
Not. Buying. A. Car.
But thanks for asking!
NES, where does he fall on the Kinsey Scale?
Palin4Prez, on June 6th, 2009 at 10:20 PM Said:
“I think you misspelled oral.”
First Bill Clinton, now jackass. Must be something in the air in that room.
UW that new GM commercial is a pretty damn good commercial, with some very good advertising slogans. It’s just too bad they are empty promises from just another import carmaker.
DE,
Axelrod probably wrote it.
Mary, at 10:29: Yes I remember our “down low” discussions. He also turned out to be low down, also as we’d predicted.
UW at 10:45: I’d say he’s a 5 on the Kinsey scale. Where do you place him?
UW at 10:33: Re the speech writer, that’s hilarious. I’d say the cardboard humping is the equivalent of training wheels for the speech writer.
P4P: Nope, no misspelling there. Oval’s the place; oral’s the preferred fare served up there.
NES,
5 is probably right. he doesn’t seem to have a strong belief in anything.
Waving to NES.
Absolutely a 5 NES, although he works very hard to pretend to be 3. Make that a 2, Bad actor, though.
Waving back, UW.
Wow! So great to have NES back! I hope you’ll be here through the summer NES!
Hello, imustprotest. Good to be back. And, to see you’re stil a regular poster, dispensing humor and good sense, as usual.
Where’s Papoose these days?