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I was at the computer reading The Confluence, Uppity, and No Quarter. I had left Taylor Marsh when she drank the kool-aid.
I decided to be an Independent that day after almost 50 years of being a democrat. I cried and looked in the mirror and said how could you have backed these people for all those years and been blind to the truth? I was a hard thing to do. I always knew that my country had to come before my party but until that day I thought my party was good for my country.
I will never forgive the “New” democratic party for 5-31-2008 and for how they have weakened my country.
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Watching it all go down on the news. Seeing Harriet Christian for the first time. She was the only good thing to come out of that day.
Became Non Party Affiliated the next day.
Reading the blogs and getting really angry….in shock somewhat…..still hopeful for a showdown in Denver.
helenk – ditto – forgot about taylor marsh – that blog turned bad in a really, really bad way
I had Confluence,Hillary’s site & NQ at that time -
I was all over the place -that was the day that my loatheing of the fraud started and it has never ended – just gotten stronger as each day passes – but I can see November from my house……………………….
I was there…standing in the rain.
The next day, I was an independent and my eyes were wide open. Changed my life.
Was a Republican since I first started voting. I became ann independent the day after GW was elected. And trust me I did not vote for Al Gore either. I was sick and tired of having to hold my nose every time I voted after Reagan left. I am a Reagan lover and I know that falls short with most of you but damn I wish he was back.
Taylor Marsh should have had whiplash for how quickly she flipped from Hillary to Obama.
DE, I remember she did one maybe 2 posts, kinda warning people and then, BAM! She was an Obot full bore. It was really weird. I get emails from her site now, she seems to have changed her tune some. Don’t know how she ever got my email addy as I never was able to successfully post even one comment. I only tried a couple times and then figured it was a private club. She was really awful to Hillary supporters after she turned, no forgiveness from me.
yeah and now taylor marsh is changing again – maybe thinking the messiah is not so messiaic but too bad – too little too late – to hell with her – she stabbed Hillary & almost tripped on her underware in slobbering over the fraud………………………………..way too many of them -
I was in California at a parrot conference aboard the Queen Mary. Busy all day I came back to the room I shared with an Obama supporter to hear the news on TV. I think my reaction curled the hair on that poor woman as I ranted. She made quick excuses to go to dinner. I was too heartsick to eat. That day stands out as the day I turned my back on the Democratic party. Even so it took days to realize what had been lost – like a death in the family. I still grieve for what might have been.
May 31 really may have been the day my life changed. I was a Democrat for so long, I had friends, organizations I belonged to, family, and then suddenly everything just changed. Nothing has ever been the same since and I can never go back to the way things were.
It was a big betrayal, not just for the country, but it trickled down into personal lives. I had my car windows smashed in, my fence vandalized, and people I’d known my whole life calling me a racist. Things have chilled out, people have apologized, but nothing will ever be the same again now that my eyes are open.
There is something I’ve been wondering since that day. Was the democratic party always corrupt and we just didn’t want to see it.
All I know now is both parties suck.
All I know is on May 31, 2008, whether they were always that way or not, on that day they were “in-your-face” with the corruption. They wanted Obama so bad they didn’t care HOW it looked. It was a, “whatcha gonna do about it” attitude not just from the juvenile bots on blogs and boards, but from the highest members of the DNC. It was shocking. They did it, because….they could.
May 31 is a day I’ll always remember, and the outrage I felt. I left the Democratic Party a hot second after the RBC stole Hillary’s votes to award to their Chosen One. Thank the lord for PUMA, which united us and provided focus and a support network for us.
At Hillarysworld forum (http://hillarysworld.activeboard.com/) we are also recalling the death of democracy and the creation of PUMA, on this, the second anniversary of the movement. Obviously, some have since chosen a different path, but we believe it’s important to recall the undemocratic actions of the Democratic Party and to celebrate the united resistance of which we were a part, through PUMA.
Please drop by if you have a moment. Hopefully, you’ll reconnect with some old friends, and take a moment to share your PUMA memories.
Happy anniversary, PUMAs.
I was an independent by June 3rd.
I just looked at Fluffpo & they are calling the Israeli / Free Gaza scrape as that the Gaza people are helpless innocents delivering humanitarian aid who were ruthlessly attacked by the terrifying Israeli commandoes! This will get uglier. Whats this about Turkey stepping in?
Socal, the way I understand it, Turkey already is involved. They sponsored the floatillas that were involved in this and many Turks were aboard. Now they say they will have the Turkish navy escort another ship or ships to Gaza. This can get even more tense than it already is……I wonder if this was the “gird your loins” moment Biden was speaking about many months ago?
“I wonder if this was the “gird your loins” moment Biden was speaking about many months ago?” Good point imust, that might be it.
Did you see Bronwyns post @ nq? There are two vids…one shows an Israeli soldier rapelling down onto the ship from a helicopter and being attacked by a mass of people, another one shows one of the “peaceful humanitarian aide workers” repeatedly stabbing another Israeli soldier.
I commented earlier on another thread about this, but bears a repeat. I rarely get as angry as I was that day, but by Goddish I marched outside and made a big fucking deal out of ripping the ‘Vote Democrat’ sticker off my back vehicle window. And I was VOCAL about it–I don’t think I’ve said the word “bullshit” as many times as I did that day. LOUDLY. That idiotic Obot across the street with her stupid sign nailed up on her roof so that ‘no racists’ would try to steal it….I made sure she knew why she and I had parted Partisan company that day. And I’m still vocal about it. I got nice and vocal this weekend in Portland with an Obot who was strangely ignorant (gasp!!) about the wretched machinations the DNC pulled on HRC. He thinks Barky is gonna “pull it all together”. With what, I have not a clue.
I’m not fucking over it. Not even a little bit.
I’m not over it either – never will be. Like the rest of you worked on dozens and dozens of Democratic campaigns. Always voted Dim. And then IT happened. Became a PUMA. It is heartbreaking to be part of a group when suddenly they go totally crazy and everything one thought they stood for was hastily shoved out the window simply because someone had a certain skin tone.
Fought with my family – all bots. Luckily most of my partner’s family supported Hillary and then McCain. Left the Dims. Left NOW. I was a state leader in NOW and was asked to be on some Dim committees and told them off in no uncertain terms. Lots of backlash from that. Ah well. Life is better without those kinds of ties and lies and lies and more lies…
That Harriet Christian video still makes me so furious I want to cry. She was mad as hell. She was talking for all of us PUMAs. I’ve lost alot of friends and clients along the way, but tough shit. That’s the price one pays for living in Truth.
I am still a registered DINO–a Dem In Name Only. I consider myself an Independent, and will vote as one for the rest of my life. And anybody who doesn’t like it can kiss my ass.
I will never forget it. That day changed my life. Until then…. I actually trusted the Dem party. Call me an idiot, but it’s true.
I’d never seen that last video, Uppity. Thanks for posting it. It made me cry…. about the death of the Progressive Democratic party…. and the great loss for our nation.
SYD
I wrote a scathing rebuke of the DNC and MSM for J. Cifre’s “Savage Politics”.
Then, I got trashed
I’ve always been an independent, but supported Hillary. I was all over the blogs like most here. Couldn’t believe my eyes/ears.
deadenders says:
Was the democratic party always corrupt and we just didn’t want to see it.
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All I know is they pulled this off like pro thugs and stepped into their nanny state/we-know-better-than-you shoes with such ease.
Don’t forget this behavior continued at the convention.
I reregistered on 2 June 2008, the Monday after that horrible Saturday I spent watching those thugs hijack Democracy. I had been a registered Dem – and for a few years, Green – all my life. Never again. I don’t think I’ll ever get over that or Jon Corzine giving all of our delegate votes to Obama, even though Hillary won our state. I feel my blood pressure and fury rise every time I think about that…
The outrage of 2000 was nothing compared to what happened in 2008. It was the ugliest political crap I’ve ever seen in my life. That day I watched the whole thing and kept pacing around with my heart racing.
I cheered for Ickes and his hijack/you bet your ass speech before those 30 elite members who got to chose our candidate against the will of the people.
Mortified. This was MY party this time and it was just as ugly, make that uglier than those other guys.
Joined Harriett in Dems for McCain. Never thought I could smile and feel good about voting RED but it was a pleasure to vote for him and sarah.
Hillary and Sarah were ripped apart for their gender by the DEMOCRATS. The progressives showed they were nothing more than regressives.
Draft Hillary 12, she’s our only hope.
That was the day, May 31, 2008 that I stopped being a Democrat and became a “real” Independent.
I will vote for people not parties from now on. I will never allow myself to be a partisan pinhead again. Fool me once and you pi$$ me off.
I’m still a Democrat, have been all my life. I can call myself an Independent [by default] because I live in a state that doesn’t require a declaration. But like most here the scales fell from my eyes on May 31st and the days of blind obedience, making phone calls, sending money were over, for good. I did the unthinkable in the GE of 2008 and voted McCain, a Republican. Still think that was the best decision considering the no-win choice we were given.
I was and remain a staunch Hillary Clinton supporter and though I’d like to think she’d have another shot, I’m doubtful. From now on, I’ll vote for individual candidates and give careful consideration to 3rd party runs, whether they’re prospects are good or not. That will be another first.
But I will not support the current corrupt system that has infected both parties, making them the Party of One, a corporate nightmare. The tipping point came in 2000. The fait accompli was 2008. We’re headed for very rough waters.
I was checking news and blogs and was beside myself when this happened. I ranted for weeks – kind of feel bad for my husband and kids having to listen. Changed my affiliation from Dem ( after 30 years) to Unenrolled, and wasn’t satisfied until I had taken my husband and a few friends with me.
I felt totally betrayed by the dem party, and every time they sent a request for $$ in the mail or by phone, I gave them my 2 cents, all right.
I think that the DNC is WORSE than the republicans, simply because up until then we expected better from them, so it was all the more shocking that it was the dems doing this to us. GRRRRRRR – some of us will NEVER FORGET.
I sent in my change of registration to ‘Unafilliated’ last week, after being a dems since voting for Carter. The repubs have gone bugf**k crazy and the dems have become the party of the corporations and wealthy. Screw both parties.
UW, I went Indie when GHW Bush raised taxes after saying he would not. One lie and I left my party. Nowdays, one lie earns a 100% honesty badge!!!!!
Peggy Sue. Your comment gives me so much hope. Just the thought of voters looking at 3rd party candidates is awesome. If every voter from either party would have been doing this for the past several years, we probably would not be in the deep stuff now. I know my former repug party was lost to a bunch of phonies.
I was right in that RBC meeting room, listening to all their lies and excuses. Then we listened to Harriet outside in the hall giving them all Hell. We were in a state of disbelief, then we raged, and finally cried . To think, a party I voted with, supported, and worked for 41 years could treat us that way. I am not over it, and I will never forget it. When I got back to PA.that night, I got out a voter registration form I had from working for Hillary’s campaign and promptly switched my party affiliation to Independent. The only problem with that is, every primary I have to choose a party affilliation so I can vote in the primaries. I will do it though, because they will not stop me from voting. They took a lot from us on May 31, 2008, but they won’t stop me from voting. Maybe not in my lifetime, but sometime down the road they will get the message, do your job, or get voted out. I will never vote party again, if they want my vote, then by God, EARN IT!!!!!!!! Sorry for the rant, but the mere mention of that day still sets me off.
“maddie, on May 31, 2010 at 10:13 PM Said:
The next day, I was an independent and my eyes were wide open. Changed my life”
That’s how I put it to people, too. Whenever I tell them (there are still SO many who think BO won the primaries) the truth, I always add how May 31, 2008 changed my whole life, and that I can’t imagine calling myself a democrat again.
I’m very happy in indy land.
Sandy there is no need to apologize, it’s why the post is there.
DE, thanks for being there and understanding on a very bad day.
I was there that day and the day for the “open” meeting. You know the one where they went away for a two hour lunch and came back suddenly with their “decision” A decision made behind closed doors. The only good thing about that day was Harold Ickes talking about fair reflection and how the democrats were breaking the most basic rules set down in their own charter.
I watched voting rights be trampled by my own party. Became indy that day. I’ll never trust them to tell the truth about that day or anything else ever again. NO political party is owed my loyalty. They trampled voter rights all to elect Bush Three. Way to go democrats. *shudder*
Sorry meant to say, I was there the day before “that” day and for the day of the “rulz” meeting too. Just remember the overwhelming knowledge in an instant that democracy was DEAD in the U.S. the second they started talking about taking votes from one candidate to be “fair” and giving them to another. I still get so p.o.’d over that, I can’t write.
Here’s the only real democrat at that table!
I too became an independent that day. It will be a very long time before I trust either party again to vote for them.
The most horrible day of my adult life I think. Until then I was naive enough to believe that my vote actually counted. Even given the Supreme Court appointment of Bush- I still believed- stupid stupid me- I actually thought what I learned in Civics class was true-
I keep my D next to my name- so I can vote in the primary here in PA- and vote for the weakest candidate they field. Payback is a mother- and I have three kids.
Alicep- thanks for the link- we need to remember and pass that info on-
There are still bots out there who think the selectee won the most votes- willfully blind bastards
A shocking and disappointing day. I will never forget and, although I remain a Democrat, I pray that the party gets its comeuppance in 2010 and 2012. They deprived us of the best and the brightest–Hillary. And look at the dimwits now.
Yes, military mom I believed too. To me it wasn’t so much about just Hillary at that moment. It was about having believed so hard I had family members registering voters during the civil rights movement when it was so dangerous to do so. It was about all of us who have had family fight and die in wars for our right to a voice in our government. It just felt like all that was being snubbed, thrown down the drain. My high emotion over that day I still think is warranted. Their actions have been swept under the carpet. I’ll never forget my shock at seeing OTHER liberal dems go along with it, cheer it on…all because this one time it benefited them. Do they not know the cost long term of that decision? So many have paid so dearly for our right to VOTE. I took Alice Paul’s name online after that day. My g. grandmother was a suffragist. Too bad it was all for nothing now that fifty five delegates *SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND* votes can just be given to whoever the party decides has “won” the right to the crown.
Hugo Chavez type elections got nothin on the democrats or the republicans. I don’t know HOW to take back our voting process but, we’ve got to do it. This can’t be allowed to go on ever again.