Very interesting discussion last night on the Occupy Wall Street protests. Mcnorman provided a link to their “Proposed Demands” (WARNING! WARNING! Norton has it blocked as a malicious site now- click at your own risk.)
The demands, ‘proposed’ by a LloydJHart of Vineyard Haven, Ma, ramble all over the damn place. Living wage, with no mention of actually having to do a job. Minimum wage of $20 an hour. Instant eradication of all debt worldwide. Racial and gender equal rights (Lloyd missed the Civil Rights Act?) Free college! Universal Healthcare! Open Borders!Bring American elections back to paper ballots.
Some I can agree with- passage of the Equal Rights amendment of course, election accountability and UHC. Their is a problem with the ‘demands” and Madamab sums it up nicely.
Is it really that hard? PICK A MESSAGE AND STICK WITH IT! How else are you going to get non-lefties’ attention? Fact is, everyone in America knows that we need to get money out of politics. That’s THE message to get everyone together. Who cares if you are left or right of your voice is being drowned out by billionaires who can buy themselves a pet politician anytime they want?
Yes yes yes- pick a message and stick with it. Whittle that list down to the two or three most important things. They are protesting on Wall Street- do they even know WHY they are there? Take a look.
And of course Uppity gets right to the meat of the matter
I sense that the majority of people there aren’t paying any bills. They are demonstrating while their parents are working to still support them. They have an entitlement mentality and want everything now, especially bright shiny objects. They are accustomed to communicating across the room with their friends using texting. They have attended schools that have indoctrinated them that America sucks, Che Guevera and Karl Marx were heroes and they all want to live in Sweden on the USA shores. A dose of the Real World would focus them like a laser on what’s important, but for now what’s important is what makes life as easy as possible for them. Thus, I saw interviews with them and they sounded like blundering fools who just showed up for the riot. As soon as one of their cell phones broke, they would go home. YOu don’t protest first and then figure out waht you’re protesting about, so whomever set this up should be shot at dawn. Had anyone thought about a focused purpose or any purpose at all, they would have quickly realized that they are standing in the wrong place.
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And if any of them had a working brain, they would realize that Barack and congress are f*cking them for life. They will either retire in poverty or never be able to retire at all. And the very people who did this to them will be long gone and they will have no one to blame but themselves for not thinking, for they have no foresight and imagine they will always be young. They fail to realize that government is not going to take care of them for life because once their own desires were met, nobody would be earning much of anything and poverty, mediocrity, lack of imagination,, and incentive to work will be gone.
They are truly helping barack screw them. I am glad I won’t be around to see it.
I looked at that video and saw a bunch of young people ( a few middle aged but not many.) Young people who have been fed a nostalgic romantic view of Karl Marx and Che Guevera. Young people with absolutely no memory of the old Soviet Union. Young people with no coherent message.The I hear Van Jones and Michael Moore are supporting them. It could get ugly if these young people let that bunch take over their “movement.”
I protested in my day- and we had goals. Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Realistic, Timely goals. One was “End The War” the other “Pass the Equal Rights Amendment.”
I used to make my children stop and think before they just went off on a tirade. WHAT are you trying to say?