On Juan Williams and muzzling

I’ve always liked Juan Williams.  I used to listen to him on NPR, long before I knew he was also a news analyst on Fox News.  He always seemed like a rational, fair-minded, and intelligent person.  Awhile back he was on Fox, and – in the context of reminding everyone that we’re a country of religious freedom and not all Muslims are terrorists – he confessed that he feels a flash of fear when he sees Muslims in traditional gear in the airport.  All h*ll broke out after that.  Ignoring everything else he said in that segment, the horrified voices screamed out, “How dare he say something like that????  What a bigot!”  The upshot is that NPR fired him, and Fox News increased his contract to make up for his lost pay.

This episode in his life motivated him to write his newest book, “Muzzled:  The assault on honest debate”.  The main theme of the book is that our country and our constitution were created by honest, and often strongly voiced, discussions about issues – yet today we tend to only share our opinions with those of like mind to avoid negative consequences.  His book illustrates how we have ALL been muzzled by the current polarized climate – by the media, by the politicians, by people in our personal lives.  If we try to speak out, to be honest about our thoughts or feelings, we get an extreme, reactionary response, just as Juan did.  As a result, most of us keep silent, which leaves only those extreme, polarized voices in the public sphere.   As a result, we’re not having the important, productive discussions we need to have as a society.  Here’s a good video of Juan discussing this polarizing trend and its muzzling effect.

Here are some excerpts from Juan’s book Muzzled:

As a black child during the height of the civil rights movement, Republicans seemed to me to be a bunch of Archie Bunkers…  This all led me to believe the right wing had a monopoly on cruelty, intolerance, and ideological rigidity.  Now, at fifty-five, it was painfully clear to me that the left wing, represented by NPR and liberal lobbying groups, had become likewise intolerant of people who did not agree with them…. They do not believe in tolerance.  They do not care about open-minded debate.  They care first and foremost about liberal orthodoxy.  (pp. 26-27)

We need to protect a free-flowing, respectful national conversation in our country.  Today, such honest debate about the issues becomes collateral damage in an undeclared war by those who make accusations of racism and bigotry whenever their political positions are challenged.  (p. 27)

Of course, condoning political polarization goes well beyond just NPR.  One-party dominance and one-sided thinking have become the rule rather than the exception in much of the media.  We are creating a culture in the newsroom where facts, context, and insight take a backseat to fear of complaints of insensitivity, accusations of racism, and all sorts of phony charges of bigotry.  On the left, the politically correct police are increasingly out in force.  (p. 28)

I want to look more deeply at the problems of censorship and political correctness in our society and show how they are undermining our ability to have meaningful discussions about important issues.  I cast a critical eye toward the role of money and institutions, and the changing nature of the media, in our society….  If people won’t tell one another what they think, we run the risk that bad ideas will never be refuted and many good ideas will never be expressed.  When our biggest concern is not whether are words are true, but whether our words will result in punishment, then we are giving away our most precious freedom.  (pp. 30-31)

While the Left mostly uses PC (political correctness) on minority identity issues like race and ethnicity, the Right uses it on issues of piety and patriotism.  (p. 51)

At its core, political correctness relies on tribalism, an “us versus them” mentality.  It is about cultivating identity groups and placing people into convenient boxes where they think and act and speak in predictable ways.  (p. 53)

The big changes in twentieth-century America… have been about social movements…  They have left much of the nation, including women and minorities, with an identity crisis, a new hunger for some scrap of common identity, and heightened competition for influence over the country’s future as we Americans safeguard identities, both for individuals and for groups.  We are all adopting the vocabulary of the aggrieved, and it comes at the expense of some notion that we all share a common cause.  (pp. 54-55)

If the intent of PC was to encourage a culture in which people in power had to be careful of the sensitivities of others, the reality of it was that it inhibited frank conversations….  As a result, the most important conversations, in which people try to understand one another and solve problems, became more trouble than they were worth.  (p. 55)

Separate realities, with Democrats consuming liberal media and conservatives responding to rightwing media, meant stories that attracted headlines on one side of the political divide got no mention on the other.  (p. 81)

He has some really great insights, doesn’t he?  It’s almost as if he’s a PUMA who went through the horrors of the 2008 primary season and came out a much wiser person, now able to step outside their party and observe and recognize the machinations of party politics more objectively.  Juan can see good and bad in both parties.  And he is aware that the parties manipulate us (in the book he illustrates this with discussions of 9/11, abortion, immigration, among others).

However, I don’t actually think Juan became aware of these realities with the same rather sudden, world-view changing epiphany that most of us experienced.  I suspect he’s known for awhile, and indeed had been experiencing the muzzling effect trying to juggle being on both NPR and Fox News.  NPR’s reactionary decision to fire him, though, was certainly sudden and I’m sure unexpected, and it triggered him to spill the beans with this book.

I have to tell you, I think this is a really good book.  BUT.  Although Juan has always fought people muzzling him, and has a renewed conviction to continue doing so, I think he’s still muzzled.  He reveals a lot of political truths in his book, but only a few times does he illustrate  how Obama exemplified some of those negative behaviors.  And never does he mention anything about Obama and company’s race baiting.  And as I’m sure you can guess, he doesn’t mention caucus cheating or delegate stealing.

Juan is a good political analyst, one who calls it as he sees it, one who has been called an Uncle Tom for being himself and not being “the way a black man is supposed to be” — I don’t believe for a second he didn’t notice what was going on.  But I don’t think some higher authority is muzzling him.  I think he is muzzling himself.  So while I think this book has the capacity to move our country forward in political understanding, I have to admit to disappointment.  I don’t think Juan has become quite as freed from his proscribed partisan and racial identities as he thinks he has.  He hasn’t quite caught up to US!

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282 Responses

  1. . . . he confessed that he feels a flash of fear when he sees Muslims in traditional gear in the airport. All h*ll broke out after that.

    I remember that. I was still at TC and I caught hell for arguing that feeling fear is not racist because it is an involuntary reaction.

    http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/does-fear-equal-bigotry/

  2. It doesn’t have a THING to do with race. It has to do with a bunch of guys dressed just like thos guys who strap bombs to their asses. I’m sorry, but it’s the truth. If I saw tha,t I would decide not to stay in the airport. Secondly, I know MANY people of Syrian and Lebonese descent, although ALL of them are Catholic. I grew up with these families and never ONCE did anyone I know consider them a “Race”. If you ask me, the Race Card is the perfect victim tool for them but sorry, no cigar. If I saw a bunch of Lebonese people at the airport not wearing that garb, I would not run. In fact I wouldn’t even know they were Lebonese.

  3. hey! My pie is back! Go figure!

  4. Here’s the post I did when Juan got fired. It has two videos of Juan talking about it.
    http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2010/10/21/the-national-pravda-radio-firing-of-juan-williams/

  5. imust, things like your pie missing have been happening, I noticed. Glad it’s back and nobody ate it!

    Gang, I will be doing some heavy duty dental work this afternoon. I don’t know if I’ll be too mean when it’s over to play on the blog, as all that stuff dentists do gives me a major migraine. So if I’m not around later, carry on.

  6. If Rick Santorum ever got close enough to ‘reach out’ to me, I’d give the neanderthal psyho to my dog first.

    Does this knuckle-dragging equivalent to a mullah actually think most of us want him anywhere near us, much less in the white house?

  7. “A month ago they didn’t know who we are, but they do now,” Santorum said, flanked by his wife, eldest daughter Elizabeth, and son John.

    O Contrare, Rick-Roll. Most of us knew exactly who you are long ago. So did the people of PA, which is why you got your ass run out on a rail. We women who live long enough learned long ago to watch your enemy.

    Furthermore, your entire family looks dysfunctional,
    http://tinyurl.com/76ert87
    which is not a surprise, considering what you are.

    The support base of women you have today on February 29 is all you are ever going to get. Eff off.

  8. I think he is muzzling himself.

    Getting pushed hard and often will do that. In Juan’s case, it’s called fear in wallet. He walks a fine line. I’m sure he doesn’t want to join the ranks of the unemployed.

  9. Yeah, I thought maybe someone ate my pie too! (yes I’m looking at you karen!)
    No matter how many times I tried to restore it….it wouldn’t take. Now it just reappeared…like magic!

    As for Satan-torum….I wouldn’t go near him with a ten foot pole!

  10. hello (((UPPITY’S)))

    coming in Late with raising hand for NES!!

  11. good luck at the Denitst.Upps.
    and have no fear we always carry on. :lol:

  12. McNorman is right. He’s muzzled by fear. In Corp America we called it, “Hit them in the wallet and their hearts and minds will follow”.

  13. Gingrich makes sense on Afghanistan: http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/gingrich-sees-impossible-task-1364582.html

    In the same article, he notes he’ll be “in trouble” if he loses the South. Please let that day come soon.

  14. NES if nothing else good comes of this year’s election, the fact that Newt Gingrich will be finshed forever is a plus. I don’t care what he makes sense on, replacing narcissist, delusional, self-impressed, arrogant Obama with narcissist, delusional, self-impressed, arrogant Newt is not a good idea.

  15. But with the “pay” reasoning – he no longer works for NPR at all. Are you guys thinking even Fox would let him go if he told the whole truth about Obama? I suppose that could be true, since even THEY never bothered to tell the whole truth!

  16. This is one EXCELLENT review and post Lorac.

    I don’t believe for a second he didn’t notice what was going on.

    Not so sure. Righteous Indignation over historical wrongs, class identity and mores in every variety man can think of seems to create BLIND SPOTS in us all.

    Rose colored glasses of a perfect world – and human species – only makes them worse for the wear.

  17. lorac, methinks you answered you own question. FOX didn’t reveal things about Obama and, although they USED the skewring of Hillary after the fact, they tip toed around that guy every single day, except for that nutbag Hannity, whose obsessive-compulsive behavior is generally ignored anyways. HIs documentary on Obama was positively ludicrous and distasteful, and not worth spit in the end. I have no DOUBT FOX still tiptoes and has at least a slight harness on things that can result in the bogus Race Card again and again.

  18. If anybody deserves to be puked on, it’s that obvious in-the-pocket NPR. Their pants were down that time, thus the person who had to resign did so in disgrace. But make no mistake, NPR hasn’t got a whit of objectivity in its bones. Furthermore, they are inept and lazy reporters. I have a post somewhere here where they declared Gabby dead. That’s what happens when you report something while sitting on your ass at the office.

  19. Few have the guts to admit to the horrific abuses of the system and voters that happened in 2008. It ain’t going to happen.

    In the final analysis, the allegedly, equalizing and history-making moment, if nothing else, is one big “How do THEY like it!” in a racially, culturally divided world that most seem to prefer, but for the “unequally divided opportunities, benefits, rights and entitlements” that the word “tolerance” is supposed to magically make right.

    I can quote Jesus, Martin Luther King, Alice Paul and… Betty Davis. It doesn’t make me them – anymore than Juan writing “Muzzled” makes him a whistleblower on a politically biased and corrupt industry that he earns a nice living in – whichever side of the pendulum he can hitch a ride.

  20. good luck at the Denitst.Upps.

    Vanity can be painful :)

  21. Can you tell I have trust issues – unreasonable scrutiny – that equates to gross “intolerance” for most all media and their members?

    That “Race Card” used to hang Hillary Clinton with a rope like WTF? had a profound effect on my attitude – toward all things racist, sexist, blind, deaf and dumb.

    (I can’t think if anything comforting so say about your going to the Dentist, Uppity. How about Posting a picture of the results? :) )

  22. Words cannot describe the freak show of the obama machine. They have it on yahoo news now and call it “slightly threatening”. It links back to a santorum loving conservative site so here is just the letter:

    As you may have noticed, we’ve asked you for a donation a few times now.

    But according to our records, you haven’t yet made an online donation to this campaign at this email address. (If our records are wrong, I apologize and thank you!)

    I’m not writing to ask you for money again. I’m actually writing to ask your opinion about why you haven’t given, and what you think would inspire you or other Obama supporters like you to decide to take the leap and donate.

    We have two quick questions for you. Can you take a minute to answer them?

    There’s a good reason we’re asking for your feedback: The kind of organization we all decided to be a part of only works if people like you pitch in to build it.

    It’s also the reason no other candidate has been able to match our level of grassroots support. This isn’t the easiest way to run a campaign — but we know it’s the right way.

    That’s why we want to know what you’re thinking.

    Thanks so much,

    Rufus

    Rufus Gifford

    National Finance Director

    Obama for America

  23. I did not eat that pie. A few others perhaps, just a bit here and there, but not THE pie. Glad it is back. It is a highlight of this board.

  24. Poor Karen has garnered such a reputation.

    Gotta run. She’s here, need to lock fridge…

  25. Tanya McDowell was living as a homeless woman when she was arrested for sending her five year old son to a school district where she- surprise- didn’t have a permanent residence. Ms. McDowell has said that she only wanted a better education for her child. Despite a change.org petition that has generated over 15, 600 signatures asking for the charges to be dropped against her, she was just sentenced to 5 years in prison after pleading guilty in the case.

    http://feministing.com/2012/02/28/homeless-mom-sentenced-to-5-years-in-prison-for-stealing-sons-education/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

  26. That video is 15 minutes long so it had to wait and I’m going to watch it now. I have some kind of virus or something. I can’t even think of food.

  27. hmmmm on the results pictures Why Not. Results won’t be completed till March. It’s just a bunch of old caps that need to be replaced and a few added (grind!) and a couple of left over munchkin wisdom teeth I still have gotta go today. So today is impressions and yanked munchkins.

  28. Karen:

    Just seeing Donna Brazille’s name as the “sender” in an email I received recently was more than “slightly threatening” to my sanity.

    She’s the first Face of the Democratic Party I see in all of my political nightmares, emerging from a hologram of Carl Rove.

  29. well four of them aren’t actually caps but porcelain overlays, which means GRIND.

  30. Karen I presume you told Rufus to Eff Off?

    Cripes who names their kid Rufus. I had a cat named Rufus.

  31. I have some kind of virus or something. I can’t even think of food

    Don’t believe her. This is a trick.

  32. From your link, Uppity:

    This case is just another example of the ways in which motherhood can often be celebrated in theory but villified in practice in our society, especially when that motherhood doesn’t look rich or white.

    So true:

    motherhood can often be celebrated in theory but villified in practice in our society,

    Never had children because they are a huge and expensive responsibility to raise and guide into healthy development and do not come with a guarantee nor warranty:

    especially when that motherhood doesn’t look rich or white.

  33. Sounds like we can assume you have a million dollar smile, Uppity?

  34. “assume correctly” that you have a million dollar smile. lol.

    NES wil be so J over someone staring at your face for hours. lol.

  35. The Juan vid was interesting, lorac. He sure does sound like he went through our PUMA lessons. I refused to watch Fox for decades. They were the enemy and NPR was the holy grail. I was wrong and it took 08 to open my eyes and let the light in. I remember Ed Rendell saying Fox was more balanced about Hillary than the other stations during the campaign and that he was slightly surprised by that. We saw it clear as day when NBC attacked her without merit. CNN ran scrolls across the bottom on election days saying she had dropped out – long after her campaign said she had not and the primaries were still on and telling people to go vote.

    The news media suppressed the votes for their favored candidate. We saw it time and time again. Fox has issues but Juan is right, they discuss all aspects of the story and are less one sided. They were the only station to even give PUMAs national primetime coverage.

  36. I saw the letter on Yahoo news uppity. No way in hell Rufus would mail me. I let the whole lot of them know exactly what I thought long ago.

    Rufus is a good name for a scruffy doggie.

  37. Yes Karen, FOX gave PUMAs coverage because it was fun for them to watch the D’s fight. And that one shitbag, what’s his name, it escapes me, the one who looks like rigor mortis right now…..he was VERY rude to the PUMAs in a very condescending and insulting way.

    Damn. What’s his name again?

  38. Shep. Asshole.

  39. LOL Why Not. NES approves I’m sure. It ain’t a million but it IS damned expensive.

  40. NES if nothing else good comes of this year’s election, the fact that Newt Gingrich will be finshed forever is a plus.

    Really? I think he’ll make more money – lectures and at least another book are in his future.

  41. It’s true they were good to us ..FOX but there were motives. Still, remember that video Hired Heels made to YOu Sexy Thing?

  42. And remember that long video of African American men for Hillary? Well it’s private on youtube now. Golly what a shock.

  43. Fabulous post, Lorac. And yes, i agree that Juan Williams had a shocking epiphany and knows even more than he is saying, however, I admire what a huge leap it is for a man in his position to write this in the first place. It is still a step forward in the debate.

  44. found it. lol remember this?

  45. Not so sure. Righteous Indignation over historical wrongs, class identity and mores in every variety man can think of seems to create BLIND SPOTS in us all.

    I agree WhyNot. At the end of the day, Juan W. is an AA and a liberal, and that combo is necessarily going to make him jump to O’s defense (which he does, on a regular basis, on Fox).

    I agree with the general sense of lorac’s post though — Juan has a lot to commend him and he did ‘go through the looking-glass’ over PC, as most of us did in ’08.

  46. FOX still tiptoes and has at least a slight harness on things that can result in the bogus Race Card again and again.

    Agreed; O’Reilly is the biggest tiptoer in this respect.

  47. Ohhhh, delicious, WhyNot!! Please do respond to the OFA letter — give it to them and their fake god!

  48. NES approves I’m sure.

    For sure. Heck, we’d all get our teeth drilled in exchange for an opportunity to meet up with you.

  49. I loved that Badboys vid.

  50. Good article. I’ll have to say, though, anyone who thought the progressive media were tolerant of all groups may have been engaging in a little head-in-sand behavior. The plight of women has never been a great concern, and in 2008, progressives were, in some cases, guilty demonstrating a bias against women. In others, they added to the problem by doing and saying too little about the sexism and misogyny with which Hillary and her supporters were treated.

    Other groups have historically been deserving of disapproval by PBS and other progressive outlets. Disparaging them publicly has been perfectly OK – they deserved it.

    One of these groups is fundamentalists Christians. I’ll have to admit, I find this group particularly objectionable, and imo they have done great damage to the country and to women’s rights, in particular. Still, if your philosophy is so tolerant, to the point that it is considered an outrage to mention Muslims when referencing 911 – why, then, does that same tolerant philosophy apply to fundamentalist Christians.

    The same is true for the American Deep South. As a Southerner, I have felt deep shame and regret for the racial prejudice, violence, hatred, and gross injustice that characterized the region. But, I know that great progress has been made – thanks to the commitment and hard work by both blacks and whites. Though tace is still an issue, as it is in other regions of this country, vast improvement in race relations have been made.

    Yet – had Juan Williams said something like – I’m going to be driving through AL and MS this week-end, and I’ll admit, I’m a little nervous about it – PBS would have expressed no disapproval.

    It always cracks me up to hear the progressives, talk with such passion about ending injustice and oppression of all people. I always think – Yeah, except for the people look down upon, or those you deem undeserving. Their education, wealth, and latte liberalism totally qualify all progressives to determine who among us is deserving of their tolerance.

  51. It’s true they were good to us… FOX… but there were motives.

    There you have it. Sums it up for me.

    Unbiased reporting of “the facts” no longer exists. They are all pundits or crusaders or both with “hidden” agendas that will compromise Public Good for the highest bidder.

    We are all Tops on the end of a string, on any given day and subject matter, spending an inordinate amount of time searching for “the truth” that should be fundamental, given the power of persuasion that Medias have in today’s world.

    I’m jaded because they will all LIE FOR THE LIARS yet still sell it as a service – “the public’s right to know.”

  52. Way off topic, but I’m looking for a new e-mail client. I used to use Outlook Express but in their infinite wisdom, MS replaced it with Windows Live Mail, which I don’t like.

    I’m looking for a legitimate software client and I don’t mind paying. I don’t want to store anything in the cloud. I don’t want it to be Web-based. I do want to be able to create message rules and my own folders. I need it to handle multiple accounts. I would be thrilled if it could import messages from Outlook Express.

  53. More on Tanya McDowell:

    In mid-June, she was arrested for selling drugs to Norwalk undercover officers on five occasions in Norwalk and Bridgeport.

    When she was picked up on the drug charges, police found her in front of Brookside School holding 30 small bags of marijuana and 23 small bags of crack cocaine, prosecutor Tiffany Lockshier said during her sentencing hearing.

  54. I’m looking for a legitimate software client and I don’t mind paying.

    Try Eudora.

    https://wiki.mozilla.org/Eudora_OSE

  55. Sophie, go here instead of the link I have:

    http://www.eudora.com/email/features/windows/

  56. “As a black child during the height of the civil rights movement, Republicans seemed to me to be a bunch of Archie Bunkers… This all led me to believe the right wing had a monopoly on cruelty, intolerance, and ideological rigidity.”
    *******
    Juan was either living in an alternate universe or is projecting his current political beliefs back in time to come up with revisionist history.

    IIRC, ONE Republican participated in the filibuster of the Civil Rights Act .

    Results of the key Senate cloture vote was:

    Cloture in the Senate:[14]

    Democratic Party: 44-23 (66%–34%)
    Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)

    And for final passage:

    The Senate version:[13]

    Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%–31%)
    Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)

    The Senate version, voted on by the House:[13]

    Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%–37%)
    Republican Party: 136-35 (80%–20%)

  57. Thanks Fredster–checking into it now.

  58. LORAC: good post——-I suppose you need to find any silver lining in the clouds of 2008, but it is difficult (for me anyway)

    I am starting to like Mittens, I hope he picks a good VP–I am hoping it will be Huntsman—however, I still don’t know If I can bring myself to vote for him, but we’ll see

  59. In addition to the problem of nearly not getting the civil rights act passed, Women got the right to vote, an act that was passsed BY ONE VOTE. ONE VOTE, friends. ONE VOTE was all that act passed by. And guess which party tried to stop it. Go ahead. Guess.

  60. And by the way…………Mom! I’m home! I’ll be eating mashed potatoes for dinner.

  61. oH UW: hope your not too much under the weather, the (grind) for which I have experienced ——–NO THANKS, it was awful and it didn’t
    work -he grinded (ground) so much I endend up cracking the
    tooth–unfortunately I avoid the dentist as much as possible,

    Hope you do better

    HOW IS FF______WHERE SHE BEEN !!

  62. Upps: How’s your mouth? (I know that’s a loaded question!)

  63. Dear Nes, thank you, dear.

    With or without an anesthetic?

  64. I don’t know how it is today, Sophie, but Outlook Express was one of the most dangerous worm spreaders out there. Ix- Nay Windows Live.

  65. SHV makes an important number point on the civil rights vote. Beware of our “woman’s” party. They are not helping women at all. And it’s deliberate. They need our votes. If they “gave” us equal rights, which we are entitled to as a birthright for chrissakes, they wouldn’t have a thing to hold over us for our votes. Don’t kid yourself. We’re on our own.

  66. NES: What is Upps thaking you for—-with ” dear”–a little odd / suspicious don’t ya think??

    I don’t recognize her if she isn’t pulling your leg–it must be the effect from the dentist

  67. You’re right Michelina. I meant to say Dearest.

  68. I got two stitches and the novacaine wore off and it hurts! And I am also so hungry I could eat a horse’s ass but can’t because I have a mouth full of gauze. Pity me. Go ahead. Do it.

  69. Uppity: I used Outlook Express for years without spreading a worm. I do keep my virus software up to date, so that could be a factor. For all of its limitations, it was a convenient little thing. Nonetheless, OE is not supported on Windows 7 so that ends that. I detest Windows Live Mail and completely agree with the ix-nay. I am in search of a new mail client. I figured I’d ask here since, well, you’re here and you are pretty darn savvy about these things.

    Fredster suggested Eudora and I’m researching it. The first glance I took the other day landed me at their new version which is built on thunderbird, has bad reviews, and is not what I want. The old good version (7.1) only supports Win 2000 and XP. However, I’ve found some forums where people have successfully gotten it to install on Win7. If nothing better comes up, this may be the route I take.

  70. I actually do know a few people who use Eudora and like it. I would research it carefully first though and look for complaints online as well, and search ‘security’

  71. Here’s a screen shot of their mailbox and file system.
    https://wiki.mozilla.org/File:OSE_Windows_UI.png

  72. I really don’t want to do thunderbird.

    Another option is Outlook (not express–totally different animal). We use it at work and I’ve cursed this program enough times over the years, but… it is everywhere and application seems to care about how well it integrates with it and how well you can export to and from it. Yes, I am contemplating joining the Borg.

  73. Well you should use what makes you feel most comfortable PROVIDING the security mechanisms are in place, not only from your end but from theirs. Hokay? Specifically, encryption if you are using sensitive information.

  74. I will tell you this…I trust Mozilla a HELL of a lot more than I trust Microsoft.

  75. Uppity- perhaps a light broth would do? Struggling with some damn virus myself- so soups on.

  76. “Beware of our “woman’s” party. They are not helping women at all. And it’s deliberate. They need our votes. ”
    *********
    Votes??? It all about the money, just like the national Komen foundation.

    It’s that season again and I’m getting hammered with requests for MONEY…Act Blue, Emily’s List, etc. and politicians coming out of the wood work. So far, directly into trash, however, I think that I will now respond with a question: ” Did you or your group support Barack Obama during the Dem primary?” Obviously if they did, then they suffer from one or all of the following, 1) lazy( to do the candidate research) 2) stupid (to understand the obvious 3) poor judgement (for failing to do the previous two) and the most likely explanation is their narcissism but that is getting too complicated for these morons.

  77. Okay, then, on to bigger and better things.

    Lorac, this is an excellent post, now that I’ve had a chance to relax and read it. I see what you mean about Juan’s awakening being PUMA-like, but wish he would also awaken to what we discovered as well. Alas, someone above mentioned the blind spots that we all have. I forgive many of my favorite bloggers for having them–might as well forgive Juan.

  78. Lorac, did you see Colbert the other night?

    http://www.hulu.com/embed/5fKhSXLtTMmdPkp9tzrHTg

  79. Sophie: I have the full-blown version of Outlook and it’s not bad. It has a *lot* of bells and whistles, came with Office 2007 Pro. The only thing I don’t like is it is slow to open and get going. Now, my laptop is 4 yrs old so that may be one reason it’s kind of clugy with me.

    I didn’t know about the Open-Source thing with Eudora which is why I redirected you to the other version. I had it on my old pre-Katrina desktop and loved it.

  80. I got two stitches and the novacaine wore off and it hurts! And I am also so hungry I could eat a horse’s ass but can’t because I have a mouth full of gauze. Pity me. Go ahead. Do it.

    Sounds like soup for you.

    When I had the root canal done they gave me a script for Lortab (Vicodin) but they also gave me 4 Aleve liquid gels to take before I left the office. I only took 2 of the Lortab and stayed with the Aleve. You might try those.

  81. Aw shit. I have a comment for Upps that went into limbo.

  82. Well don’t know if it went to spam or not so limbo works just as well for me.

  83. Okay everyone. Let’s have a moment of silence for these poor folks. Crying for them is optional.

  84. Oh FCS!

    Schiff, 46, is facing another kind of jam this year: Paid a lower bonus, he said the $350,000 he earns, enough to put him in the country’s top 1 percent by income, doesn’t cover his family’s private-school tuition, a Kent, Connecticut, summer rental and the upgrade they would like from their 1,200-square- foot Brooklyn duplex.

    “I feel stuck,” Schiff said. “The New York that I wanted to have is still just beyond my reach.”

  85. Boo Effing Hoo.

  86. His 10-year- old daughter is a student at $32,000-a-year Poly Prep Country Day School in Brooklyn

    It’s a damned shame isn’t it?

    The family rents a three-bedroom summer house in Connecticut and will go there again this year for one month instead of four.

    Oh Gawd, this is tearing me apart. I can’t take it!!

  87. Another good woman bites the dust, politically: http://thehill.com/video/senate/213365-retiring-sen-snowe-attacks-political-paralysis-in-washington

    Or does she? Wouldn’t it be great if Snowe’s doing this so she can run for prez. as an Independent? Finally, it’d be someone in ’12 that we could vote for with joy (rather than grim resignation). Is there a movement afoot for Snowe?

  88. Hey Mom! Missed you. Sorry to hear you haven’t been well.

    I want some soup too.

  89. We pity you, Upps. Rest up (while you entertain us!). Seriously, how’re you doing?

  90. Fished ya outta spam, Fredster?
    Will you do my nails now? lorac will be so J; Michelina too.

  91. michelina, Romney can’t pick Huntsman as a VP; a double-header-Mormon ticket won’t cut it.

  92. Fished ya outta spam, Fredster?
    Will you do my nails now? lorac will be so J; Michelina too.

    Thank you. And no, although the possibility of making lorac and Michelina J is sooo tempting.

  93. michelina — In response to your query, Upps was thanking me for saying that we’d all undergo drilling of our teeth for the chance to personally meet her. It’s just the plain ol’ truth.

  94. You’re right Michelina. I meant to say Dearest.

    I endorse that comment!

  95. although the possibility of making lorac and Michelina J is sooo tempting.

    Those of us who live for the possibility of making lorac J are never disappointed.
    Where, oh where, is lorac’ers. (Wassup with her having the discipline not to get online at work? I’m J about that.)

  96. ^^^ Aw f*ck ‘em.

  97. @karen. I never said you took the pie…..I’m just sayin’….the pie was there…then it was gone! And you were in the vicinity….coinky-dink?

  98. Rubio’s got them all covered. He’s kinda like Obama in that one respect — all things to all “folks.”

  99. imust, thrilled you have your pieface back.
    Don’t let karen off the hook!

  100. I knew about the Mormon thing and naturally R.C. but the Baptist threw me until a friend in FL told me about that one.

  101. That pie has a life of its own. It ran for President – Pie 2012, it wandered off for a few weeks and then found its way back home all by itself, and it is by far the best looking member of this blog.

    I respect that pie. It has a better chance of survival than imust’s poor overheated pengy did.

  102. The VP choice might make some of us cringe. Hopefully he will pick someone with more substance and open to less ridicule than Palin or Biden.

  103. It has a better chance of survival than imust’s poor overheated pengy did.

    Are you accusing imust of pengy abuse?

  104. lol NES I spend the day talking to people. It would be sort of rude to be blogging at the same time lol Not to mention all the paranoia it would induce!

  105. Oh here we go again! Karen, just like the politicians, trying to distract and deflect your pie pilfering with a phony penguin abuse tale!! Well, it won’t work I tell you! Pies don’t just “disappear” on their own…do they?

  106. lorac, great post. I’ve always found Juan to be an interesting person and worth listening to.

    Hmmm. Who WILL Romney pick for vp? Kind of a scary thought, that. I wish he would pick Huntsman, but we all know thats out.

    Upps, hope you can sleep though the painful period.

  107. Yes, imust, its very suspicious that Karen is the one who remembers all the details of the pies comings and goings!!!

  108. UW, I have dental empathy for you. Not sure exactly what you had done, but unfortunately, chances are I’ve been there done that lol

  109. myiq, thanks for posting that link. Wow, they REALLY didn’t get it. You made it very clear, the difference between fear and bigotry.

    And all that talk about someone feeling fear like Juan, needing education. For heaven’s sake, even within the context of his admitting his fear, he was showing that he already HAD that “education”.

    Well, I’m extra glad he’s written the book now. As Juan might say, if they will just start hearing something other than their own echo chamber, they might learn something lol

  110. I don’t know imust…. karen may be a victim of food stealing profiling… pies could lead to cavities…. and who went to the dentist today….?

  111. Only if the pie in question was a carmel apple walnut lorac, that’s the only pie Uppity eats! Now karen….that’s another story!

  112. The evidence against karen is mounting.

  113. Elle accuse UW????!!!!

    Whoa! lorac, you need a good lawyer.

  114. Isn’t it though…

  115. NES, I need a good lawyer? I KNOW a good lawyer! C’mon over! :)

  116. Uh oh UW is “ugh” ing. UW, we can put the carmel apple walnut pie in the blender and you can drink it…

  117. lorac, I represent Upps, Needlenose and MKB. Fair to say, I’m conflicted out. Call Alan Dershowitz.

  118. Oh, right through the heart!!!!!

  119. Upps is dentally-constrained to be monosyllablic. “ugh,” “heh,”…what’s next?????

  120. give it up lorac, she’s mine. but don’t blame yourself. It’s just that, when you’re hot you’re hot.

  121. I do feel like crap. Bummer. Should be better at 24 hour mark. Last one didn’t hurt as much but I got a couple of stitches and I think that’s what’s making me hurt. That and the zillion novacaine shots it took. I miss coffee and luke warm soup and cream of wheat isn’t cutting it for nourishment. I ate enough mashed potatoes to sink the queen mary. My bestest friend in the whole wide world did send over some yummy winter squash creamed soup.

  122. Misery loves company, huh? lol

    I do hope you feel better, soon. Pain isn’t fun, but I always think pain anywhere in your head is the worst.

  123. Well it’s not fun, but I think kidney stones are the worst pain. That and migraines. Fortunately I don’t have a migraine from this, but my head does hurt. Just enough to make me mean. How will anyone know the difference?

  124. My bestest friend in the whole wide world did send over some yummy winter squash creamed soup.

    Don’t mention it, Upps. Glad you thought it was yummy.

  125. Just enough to make me mean. How will anyone know the difference?

    Rapier wit still intact? Check.

  126. Ok, you slackers! How come no one’s mentioned Olympia Snowe. She’s retiring from the Senate. One less woman in Congress, and a bad loss.

  127. yes thank you, honey.

  128. I agree I hate to see Snowe go. She was often a voice of reason in an otherwise crazy party.

  129. In case you are wondering whether or not the party of crazy-assed mullahs have jumped the shark yet, no longer any need to guess.

    Nebraska submits a bill that makes killing a doctor who performs an abortion, justifiable homicide. No kidding. A third person can step in, kill the doctor and it’s justifyable homicide. Why am I thinking of that movie ‘Misery’?

    These people are clinically insane.
    http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/02/29/nebraska-legislature-considers-justifiable-homicide-abortion-doctors

  130. Olympia is probably retiring because of crap like this.

    http://tinyurl.com/85kjj3o

  131. I finally went over and painted NES’ nails but she was less than enthused with the final product.

    http://en.hairdresser-models.eu/gallery/fingernails/painted-nails_zoom.html

  132. I explained that what you had to work with when starting makes a lot of difference in what you end up with.

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hPW2MU72E-c/S-2R5vthpoI/AAAAAAAAFMw/CUSDTljNOiw/s1600/100_1581.JPG

  133. Say I have a great idea that i kNOW the far right would love to see implemented. They could turn the urban poor into an alternative fuel source.

  134. You did NES’ nails?? Photo please! I mean I’m going to have to post a photo of my teeth!

  135. The Democrats would like that idea too. They can get a Prius that runs on the urban poor.

  136. YOu know, the Republican and Democratic parties weren’t always bad and crazy. They were sensible people who worked to get things done. It was when the fringe parties started infiltrating and hijacking that things went bad. It was when words like “Progressive” and “Conservative” got hijacked and turned these two parties into the party of the loud and insane. I crossed over to vote a number of times in my lifetime, and now I can’t stand the thought of voting at all.

  137. Am I here alone? I took a tylenol 3 for you people so I would still have the pain but I wouldn’t care. And now I’m here in lala land all by myself.

  138. Whaaaaat??? Justifiable homicide!!!!!! WTF. Really, WTF.

  139. Final product at 1:59. What I had to work with at 2:01.

  140. Fredster —

    Liar Lipstick
    Sat upon a thin stick;
    The thin stick broke,
    And Liar got a poke.

    Harrumph…I love me my nails.

  141. J!

    J!

    J!

    J!

  142. Am I here alone? I took a tylenol 3 for you people so I would still have the pain but I wouldn’t care. And now I’m here in lala land all by myself.

    Chase it with some 151 rum. :lol:

  143. Gross! Foul calumny, Fredster. Expect a defamation lawsuit…MKB, riding astride Needlenose, will drop it on your shoe on the morrow.

  144. Harrumph…I love me my nails.

    Really??? And it looks like we made a certain someone so J.

  145. They could turn the urban poor into an alternative fuel source.

    You stole that from Matrix!

  146. Gross! Fowl calumny, Fredster

    Wha?? You mean 2:01?

  147. Someone here J??????????????

  148. Oh, that proposed legislation is ridiculous.

    NES, can you address this legally?

    Here’s the best *I* can do:

    What jumps out to me is, it’s not “defense” if a person isn’t “hurting someone” at that moment that you’re killing them.

    And what about not taking the law into your own hands? If you think someone else is breaking the law or hurting someone, you have to tell the professionals!

    What’s the deal here? Every SINGLE midwestern state is now going to make me look like a fool for speaking well of them? Pffffttt!

  149. I did not! I’ve been saying it for a long time. Lotsa my stuff showed up in movies. Like way back when I got pissed over the word “Underwhelmed”, which didn’t exist. So I wrote a letter internally poking fun at another letter and asked if you aren’t Overwhelmed or Underwhelmed, are you just Whelmed? And all those years later it showed up in that Alicia Silverstone movie.

  150. The Democrats would like that idea too. They can get a Prius that runs on the urban poor.

    The Dems would want to turn them into algae first. Obama’s WTF new fuel for the future: Algae!!

  151. Eh, bad typing yields blockquotes that aren’t closed. :roll:

  152. NES, can you address this legally?

    At $550/minute.

  153. Can’t have any alcohol, Fredster.

    Okay picture this. Women about to terminate a pregnancy. Doctor begins D&C and nurse stabs him and the patient with a scalpel because her religlion precludes this procedure. Justifyable homicide.

  154. Your instincts are spot-on, lorac. Courts exist to knock this shit down, and they will.

  155. J!

    J!

    J!

    J!

    ::Snort::

  156. Thank you whoever fixed my comment.

  157. Yeah NES, and when a judge knocks it down they will say it’s a ‘Libril’.

  158. And all those years later it showed up in that Alicia Silverstone movie.

    Hmmm. J’Accuse Ani or socal!! Who else is connected to Hollywood, FCS.

    (Our poor Upps is hallucinating now.)

  159. As IF you can constitutionally run around killing people because of your religion. Ayup.

  160. ‘Twas I, said the ___.

  161. I think that was tried a few times, wasn’t it? Where are those people now?

  162. As IF you can constitutionally run around killing people because of your religion.

    Santorum begs to differ…and bids you to go to a Nunnery for Lapsed Catholics.

  163. Boyfriend who dumped her finds out she’s pregnant. Kills her on her way to the appointment. Justifiable Homicide. Yup. THese people are seriously insane.

  164. And that would be Nurse Ratchet.

  165. Hey NES, lots of my pearls traveled the net. You know that.

  166. I mean the ‘before’ photo, Fredster. Those were lorac’s nails (you nola two-timer, you!).

  167. So far the only difference between the batshit wing of Christianity and Sharia is…..they can’t legally get away with killing us. So Nebraska is going to fix that. No irony here, is there?

  168. Regressive. Trace it. It started here. Barky. It started here.

  169. Wimminz. It started here.

  170. Oy, first you won’t represent me, then you charge me an exhorbitant fee!

  171. Admit it. I’m the internet comedy writer.

  172. Now I have to scroll up and find a photo of fingernails!

  173. lots of my pearls traveled the net.

    Indeed…and were spilled before swine too.

  174. Give it up lorac. When you’re hot, you’re hot.

  175. I mean the ‘before’ photo, Fredster

    buh,buh, but…I thought you LOVED them!!

  176. Barky, I know. But, “Regressive” too? Wow!

  177. Whoa! Wimminz too? Triple WOW.

  178. Oy, first you won’t represent me, then you charge me an exhorbitant fee!

    lorac’ers, that’s the NON-client fee special.

  179. Indeed…and were spilled before swine too.

    For a heathen, this is brilliant.

  180. Upps IS THE INTERNET COMEDY GENIUS! We bow before you. Barky also bows.

  181. I love the AFTER photo, Fredster.

  182. Well since you’re a lawyer, here ya go.

    Now, that’s more like it, Fredster. I’ve called off the cat-mounted-on-dog process server.

  183. Oh, NES and Fredster! They’re not my nails, either set! I’ll tell you a secret – I’m a very simple, non-fancy person! I’ve never worn makeup and only tried nail polish once. But I do write on my hand sometimes, that’s a kind off adornment I suppose lol

    Oh! WAAAAY upthread someone posted a link to a comedy guy talking about The Lorax – Sophie CT? – anyway, thanks! I hadn’t seen that, it was funny! His writers did a good job with the Seuss like narrative!

  184. heh pseudo seuss

  185. At $550/minute.

    Are you a lawyer or do you work at the Bunny Ranch? 8O

  186. Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh good one Fredster ROFL

  187. I’ll tell you a secret – I’m a very simple, non-fancy person! I’ve never worn makeup and only tried nail polish once.

    Sounds like a lesbian.

    lorac’ers, we’ll fix all that. Fredster is on his way!

  188. It’s the nails. She pulls in a more affluent client base at the bunny ranch with the fancy nails lol

  189. WAAAAY upthread someone posted a link to a comedy guy talking about The Lorax – Sophie CT? –

    That SophieCT is cute, eh? Something about her reminds me of Hillary. lorac, too — shades of Hillary.

  190. Are you a lawyer or do you work at the Bunny Ranch?

    Why choose?

  191. I’ll tell you a secret – I’m a very simple, non-fancy person! I’ve never worn makeup and only tried nail polish once.

    Do you wear sensible shoes?

    Oh and good one lorac!

  192. Hey its not like my cats’ mother wears army boots, either lol

  193. Why choose?

    Indeed! Some say those professions are one and the same. ;-)

  194. wimminz is catchy, because it’s just so…right on.

    lorac, you can be represented by NES so long as it is not against her clients, myself, my dog and MKBill. Otherwise you are free to pay her outrageous fees, whereas she represents us pro bono.

  195. Fredster – you better believe it! Comfort all the way, baby!

  196. I do get a kick out of sophie too. Mainly because she’s got good timing. She writes all these logical pearls and then out of the blue, she cracks us up with a one liner.

  197. Sensible shoes. Hahahahaha.

  198. Got a couple of pairs of Danskos, lorac?

  199. Comfortable as hell.

  200. Whoa! That was a trip down 9/2008 memory lane. Hey Upps, I was lawyering for you even then!

    OK, slackers, here’s the proof of the authorship of the term “Regressives”:

    Uppity Woman, on September 2, 2008 at 2:27 PM said:

    From now on, I think we should refer to them as REGRESSIVES.

  201. Hey NES. WHat kind of shoes do you wear to trial?

  202. Sensible shoes (literally, a group)

  203. More on memory lane:
    It was great to see some of the old commenters, now lost in the mists of time: Papoose, Type, Raging, etc.
    And, there’re some — like PJ — whom I see on other sites (and really like).
    And, then there’re the old friends, still here after all this time: imust, SHV, mcnorman, etc.

  204. Wow, Fredster. What a DISGUSTING priest. Her own mother’s funeral!

  205. Hey, wait a minute, where was our girl lorac in 2008???????

  206. Hey I’ve got Danskos and I’m not a lesbian. So there.

  207. Hey NES. WHat kind of shoes do you wear to trial?

    Hush Puppies.

  208. Well, my primary profession is the second oldest.

  209. NES, I think you were actually one of my first three blog followers.

  210. I had the “good luck” of first finding all the later-traitor websites.

  211. So true about SophieCT. She’s witty as hell. Really enjoyed her description tonight (at the neighbor’s) of what caused the Reformation.
    I hope she won’t mind if I excerpt it here:

    The reformation came about because the excesses of the church had gotten, well, excessive. Martin Luther railed against the selling of indulgences and then everybody who hated “Romish ways” piled on. There were the anti-Mary’s, the pugatory-deniers and saint-doubters, and the ones who didn’t want to play dress-up any more. And others.

  212. Leather, heels (with hidden/retractable spurs dipped in poison).

  213. Wow, Fredster. What a DISGUSTING priest. Her own mother’s funeral!

    I know! :evil:

    I’ve got several pages on this bookmarked and I want to do a post on it. I’ll have to bump Pat or Chat but don’t think they’ll mind. That was just vile to do. I wonder if he’s in a state of grace after diddling little boys? Would they deny communion to one of their own?

  214. Hey, wait a minute, where was our girl lorac in 2008???????

    And, what about MOM?

  215. Of the people still around, Delphyne was first. In March 2008, when I was lucky if ANYBODY read me. NES came next. In April I think.

  216. Hush Puppies.

    WHERE’s my feline-canine process-server team??!!!!!!!!!!

  217. I guess we could all start the genealogical tree with T. Marsh, right? Or for some of us America Blog. But, I never did go to the Cheetos site.

  218. I did start at T.Marsh, but just read/lurked. Upps was the first one I wrote to — after lurking since Feb. or Mar. (post-IOWA shock).

  219. Yes you were and I checked the old “about” files and you were definitely there in March–when I started blogging. You wrote to me on the about page first.

  220. That’s where I started, but you don’t remember me! Hmmppfff. Just can’t get anyone to notice your comments if you don’t have fancy nails and shoes!

  221. Actually I didn’t start at Marsh. I never could post there either. I started at John Smart’s first.

  222. Yeah, and then imust and Papoose (aka, Patti) were posting often. And, of course, Mary (also a vegan, but not tolerant of our carniverous talk [unlike dear lorac'ers]).

  223. I discovered Smart’s (then called Liberal Rapture) soon after I found you, Upps. But, never posted there until recently.

  224. I’m trying to think…Marsh and Amblog, then R.D. and N.Q., then some severe arguments started and people started going off on their own. Let’s see…D.U., Wonk, reclusive and Allegre, Cinie of course…Talk Left. Mad, in a couple of different places. I can’t remember now Upps how I got to you! Oh, Gary and Mawm and their PUMA mobile!! Corrente, FDL. Geez, what a list!

  225. Well lorac, you didn’t look like Hillary then, right?

  226. Wow Fredster, you bin a regular whore.

  227. Wow Fredster, you bin a regular whore.

    Sigh. I knew that one was coming. Let’s just say it took me awhile to find a comfortable place. LOL!

  228. Yup you’re right lolol.

  229. Sowwy fredster honey. I killed your comment. I don’t like to talk about other simpatico bloggers here. I’d feel horrible if it were done to me.

    Of course, if I were attacked first. well that would be different as i have been known to show. ..

  230. Sowwy fredster honey. I killed your comment. I don’t like to talk about other bloggers here. I’d feel horrible if it were done to me.

    Okay, understood.

  231. I never commented at Marsh. I Could never get through. Just as well. I don’t want my fingerprints near that swamp.

  232. I need to call it a night anyway, it’s almost 3 a.m. here. Upps, try the Aleve liquid gels for your mouth. The endo told me to take 4 at a time. They helped w/out having to get loopy on the prescription stuff.

  233. WHERE’s my feline-canine process-server team??!!!!!!!!!!

    Right here on the couch with me.

  234. lorac first graced us in June 2009. FYI there are 360 pages of her whining. heh.

  235. Time for all, especially the dental patient, to hit the sack, nay?

  236. Nite fredster. I took tylenol with codeine. I still have the pain but don’t care. lol.

  237. Whoa. Does that mean lorac loves Upps 15 months less than I do? What’ll her punishment be?

  238. Fredster. I should qualify and correct. Friendly or simpatico bloggers we don’t talke about. Marsh is fair game.

  239. Marsh is fair game.

    The law of the jungle. Her U-turn left skidmarks (h/t my friend).

  240. eh you gotta excuse lorac, NES. SHe probably got thrown off all the other blogs and landed here.

  241. Nite Upps! Get well soon.

    Lorac’s AWOL. What’ll her punishment be?

  242. NES I probably won’t go to bed. I fell asleep very early out of sheer desire to get rid of the pain and I’m wide awake now. But I am happy to tuck you all in and clean this place up. Go to bed.

  243. pseudo seuss

  244. Is “Lorax” the plural of “Lorac?”

  245. I think I started reading blogs with Crooks and Liars back in 2005. Then I moved over to Buffooon Juice.

    I lost count of all the blogs I’ve been banned from.

  246. Speaking of oldest professions, what is the difference between a hooker and a lawyer?

    A: Hookers stop screwing you after you die.

  247. good morning ((((UPPITY”S))))

    Fredster: I am soooo J—Lorac—I felt that stab in the heart, at least we Know Upps is back———she was getting me worried with this dearest and honey Stuff——

  248. I lost count of all the blogs I’ve been banned from.

    lol been there a few times myself. There’s an old Italian saying about that. “I’ve been thrown out of better places than this”.

    Can’t say I didn’t learn from them too. Wish I had a thousand for everybody I threw out. The greatest pleasure are the OBots.

  249. Lorac’s AWOL. What’ll her punishment be?

    The poor dear gets her punishment every time she tries to steal you.

  250. WHOA! Just heard Breitbart died- cheese and rice- 43 yrs old. Some of his stuff was kind of sleazy- but damn- 43?!?!

  251. Limbaugh calls the woman Issa refused to allow to testify a “slut”
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/73487.html

  252. Andrew Breitbart is dead.

  253. Breitbart was an obsessive compulsive. It was plastered all over his sites, including the ones nobody knew were his. that’s what compulsive sleaze does to you.

  254. “I lost count of all the blogs I’ve been banned from.”

    MYQ: say it isn’t so, god I remember you from way back, (RD) always
    liked you

    I started at Hillary’s blog, and went to work for her, and stuck with her
    until she conceded, and then I went looking for another home,
    god that was hard—–

    I’m ashamed to say I never found UPPITY’S place until the blog contest, Murphy bought us here and happy to say I’ve stuck around

    You guys ARE DA BEST!

  255. Ah, who doesn’t love Murphy?

  256. Re Breitbart. Better him than me. I look at it this way. If I died would Breitbart give a shit?

  257. We have the video of them dragging breitbart away from prostesters posted somewhere here recently. It should be labeled “What killed Breitbart”

  258. I need to get the energy to do a post. So far……..pfffffft.

  259. NEW POST UP.

  260. UW: is Breibart Dead??

  261. I see you have a post upstairs, I’ll go there

  262. SophieCT, on February 29, 2012 at 5:41 PM said:

    Okay, then, on to bigger and better things.

    Lorac, this is an excellent post, now that I’ve had a chance to relax and read it. I see what you mean about Juan’s awakening being PUMA-like, but wish he would also awaken to what we discovered as well. Alas, someone above mentioned the blind spots that we all have. I forgive many of my favorite bloggers for having them–might as well forgive Juan.

    In my less rantful stance, SohieCT’s comment resonates on all levels with me, including my own “Blind Spots”.

    As a woman and a witness to 2008 I have no delusions about its far reaching impact on fueling the war on women that we are seeing today:

    Juan is right on many levels, and I applaud him for his efforts, but Obama’s presidency is the result of people like him sticking their heads in the sand when it comes to the all-out assault on women.

    Once again, fear, bigotry, hatred and oppression – when it comes to RACE AND ETHNICITY – needs confronting with “open and honest discussion.”

    Forgive me, for having a really hard time standing on the whale fishing for minnows of hope and change for women – and “good guys” who compromise us, if it serves their own agendas.

  263. Lorac, this IS an excellent post and review – with many excellent comments that are giving me opportunity to work on my “Blinds Spots” – including the one over Juan Williams happily working for NPR…. until…. lol.

  264. Why Not said:

    Forgive me, for having a really hard time standing on the whale fishing for minnows of hope and change for women – and “good guys” who compromise us, if it serves their own agendas.

    It just occured to me, I ended my post (see below) mentioning my belief that Juan is muzzling himSELF due to his racial and partisan identities, that he hasn’t been able to step outside of them as much as he may think he has. Why Not made me realize that I didn’t mention that his gender identity probably also influenced his willingness to not comment on the awful stuff done to Hillary in the name of getting the first half-black man into office who cares if he has no experience or principles politics. Thanks, that was a V-8 moment for me!

    I ended my post with:

    I don’t think Juan has become quite as freed from his proscribed partisan and racial identities as he thinks he has.

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