WSJ: 18% of American wealth is gone

Thanks for link Star. This from WSJ.

The wealth of American families plunged nearly 18% in 2008, erasing years of sharp gains on housing and stocks and marking the biggest loss since the Federal Reserve began keeping track after World War II.

The Fed said Thursday that U.S. households’ net worth tumbled by $11 trillion — a decline in a single year that equals the combined annual output of Germany, Japan and the U.K. The data signal the end of an epoch defined by first and second homes, rising retirement funds and ever-fatter portfolios.

11 Trillion. Now that’s frightening. That means 18% of America’s wealth is no longer taxable, folks.  If this continues, who exactly is going to pay for government to torture us?

I heard yesterday on Teee Veee that there are 24% fewer millionaires in the USA as opposed to pre-2008. While we all might say, “Oh Boo Hoo,” these were people with large taxable incomes. Now they have large nontaxable losses to write off.

The decline in Americans’ net worth, which was the first in six years, follows an extraordinary boom. Not accounting for inflation, household wealth more than doubled from 1990 to 2000, and then, after a pause, rose nearly 50% before the bust of 2008.

This is not just about millionaires either. It’s about all those people in the middle who are not buying goods, who are saving now, becoming more sensible out of fear.

While the value of their assets was falling, Americans’ total debt remained roughly flat. Total household debt increased by half a percentage point in 2008 as families faced tighter lending standards and many started trying harder to live within their means. After years of splurging with an eye on their rising assets, that phenomenon, known as the wealth effect, now cuts the other way, spurring frugality.

We all recognize this trend, right? We are all in on it. So, loosening up credit markets for ordinary people may not get the fish to bite the hook this time. Americans have no intention of being tempted by a re-run of the credit trap. They are suddenly older and wiser–and looking out for themselves with an eye toward their own futures.  Even people who have some money are not spending. They are living below their means, thinking twice, repairing the car instead of buying a new one. The lobster industry is truly hurting right now. People are finally saying, “Are you kidding? I’m not going to pay that for this!”. Even in the smaller things, people are pulling back.  Looking to Downsize their life. Thus, you see Starbucks hurting. People finally realize that 4 bucks for flavored coffee is over the top in times like these.

“I’d look at my 401(k) and we’d feel comfortable, happy…. I was never very cautious,” says Ms. Cortese, 40 years old, of Oakland, N.J. If her boys and their friends wanted burgers or pizza after a roller-hockey game, she obliged. A cleaning lady scrubbed her four-bedroom house and a landscaper mowed her lawn

I think we can pretty much relate to Ms. Cortes.  Now, we are becoming a more realistic society out of sheer self-survival. You cannot take the Self-Preservation instinct out of people’s DNA. I think Middle America believes at this point that, individually, nobody is going to save them except themselves. This, of course, will not help the economy or jobs, but the trust is gone and people just don’t feel very into the “I of We”. America seems to be in “every man for himself” mode in spite of the call for sharing. When it comes to self-preservation, sharing tends to go out the window.   There’s nothing like fear for your own survival to snap people into reality. And in some circles, there is actually a sigh of relief.  Impressing everybody else is hard work.  Now nobody has to do this.  It’s actually a relief not to be expected to live above your means, beholding to faceless credit predators in search of your money–and that is exactly what they are–predators. I think Middle America, which is not represented by our government, has finally figured that out.

At the same time, a sense of personal responsibility is setting in and that part is not so bad, is it?  We lost that good sense somewhere along the line and need to get it back.  We lost the healthy mix of charity and personal responsibility together. I think Americans individually are struggling on their own to regain that mix. They know that government won’t do it because our two major parties are both living in extremes we can’t relate to.

I think we’ve reached a turning point in Middle America, where the individual is beginning to take charge, saying, “Enough!”.  And when you add up all the individuals, you have the collective America.  All the mock tea parties in the world can’t match that.

……and mowing our own lawns might just help to get us all in shape.

55 Responses

  1. Better than reality TEE VEE.

  2. Real reality always is. lol

    I’m on a posting roll today. Yeesh. Too lazy to do any REAL work.

  3. I think I shall make a nice beef stew tonight. Comfort food.

  4. 30 trillionUSD world wide has been lost since this economic tsunami / crisis started!!!

    And BHO approval rating isssssssssssssssss = 57%. The lowest rating of any POTUS ever in over 100+ years after 50 days in office.

    Is it time to say to Obamabots: “I TOLD YOU SO” already?????????

  5. and BTW…how come no one wanted to be part of Treasury Dept.?

  6. Yeah, really weird that people don’t want subcabinet jobs–in DC those used to be prized beyond all.

    For some of us, credit is still part of the equation–and this is sucking even worse for us.

  7. That Krugman guy said the other day, “C’mon what’s a few taxes or not paying taxes for your nanny?”

  8. That’s right you worked on the Hill didn’t you Star? I think those jobs are STILL coveted, just not in the case of the Treasury. It’s very interesting why people are running off. I do know they stepped up the vetting, so maybe that’s it. They don’t want to be embarrassed again. It looks a lot like you can’t find an honest person to work for them, and that’s pretty sad.

  9. ….waving to joey…

    You know what joey? I think they are vetting harder and it’s just too hard to find a clean person in DC any longer. Seriously.

  10. Wow, joey, 30 trillion. Nancy would love to spend that.

  11. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123690358175013837.html

    Another good one from our friends at the Journal…

  12. And this is some weak-ass shit from Summers…
    we are paying some teachers..those teachers should have been paid…It’s over but may not over for a long time still…are these “folks” on crack?

    http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/13/lawrence-summers-on-the-crisis/?hp

  13. I worked on the Hill but I worked for the aerospace industry–we jokingly called it the merchants of death. Lobbyist–come and get me coppers!

  14. Can I come for dinner ? I only have bread here : bread and stew sounds so good….

    I guess we will all have heart attacks before we are EVER able to retire.

    Looking good in the hospital dept if they do not get us in taxes they get us in healthcare….

  15. Justme, I wish technology were more advanced so I could beam up some stew for you and your family.

  16. Yeah and this guy wants out of jail already:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090313/ap_on_bi_ge/madoff_scandal_appeal

    A lot of that wealth was, IMHO – from the 80’s periods when it was mostly on paper. Bound to go the way of all things imaginary!

  17. Tough shit, bernie. Go clean a toilet with a toothbrush, you sack of crap.

  18. Barbara, agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It was almost all “in the head” – only on paper.

    And that doubling of wealth from 90 to 00, well that was just one more very very big speculative bubbling decade for housing.

    All those “numbers on paper” on Wall Street aren’t beef stew you can eat or anything else you can touch!

  19. Sorry you keep landing in moderation Mrs. Boo-Kay. WordPress is ornery that way. Once you post a few more times, it should start to behave.

  20. Uppity, apologies if you’ve already posted on this. Else, enjoy the delish news. To quote my very witty NY friend: “Read it and weep not.”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123690358175013837.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

  21. Oh ROFL NES. lowest of any president in first 50 days. But it will pick up. After all, he cured the economy in a week, didn’t he?

  22. LOL

    “45% say they do not have confidence, a number that has been growing since the inauguration less than two months ago…”

    like a falling rock……

    Look what The Black Agenda Report is saying about Obamites.

    http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/%E2%80%98left%E2%80%99-obamites-prefer-kool-aid-struggle

    ‘Left’ Obamites Prefer Kool-Aid to Struggle

    by BAR executive editor Glen Ford
    “Burnham’s definition of ‘motion’ does not involve confronting Power, but rather, attaching oneself to it.”

    Lots of folks on the left, it is now apparent, no longer seek anything more than to bask in the sunshine of Barack Obama’s smile. No matter how much national treasure their champion transfers to the bankster class, and despite his exceeding George W. Bush in military spending, so-called progressives for Obama continue to celebrate their imagined emergence as players in the national political saga. Having in practice foresworn resistance to Power, they relish in bashing the non-Obamite Left.

    test test

  23. Those were not just numbers on paper–people sold their house and pocketed those numbers. My mother had a set number in the trust when it started–now those dollars aren’t there. Are you saying people who put money in their IRA and thought it was money plus interest were wrong? It was just “bubble”? Yes, nothing is worth a set thing until someone pays that amt–but people did–and now they won’t.

  24. And in an article linked by WND today, ”

    Stephen Schwarzman, the chief executive officer of private equity company Blackstone Group LP, told Reuters that between 40 and 45 percent of the world’s wealth had been destroyed in the past year and a half.

    http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=91609

  25. The interesting thing about the wealth that was lost, it can come back just as fast as it disappeared, since it was all electronic not concrete.

  26. Yeah I was reading something about how it’s all just electronic bucks with absolutely nothing to back it up. The only SOLID money was the money the SUCKERs earned and put in. And that got stolen.

  27. AMEN Uppity!

    A BIG Ponsi Scheme – remember how may of those people were working 2, 3 and sometimes even 4 or more jobs.

  28. This is a really great post, Uppity…thank you.

    My community is full of very generous people. If a need is seen, it is taken care of, especially through the churches here. I think what this economic situation has done here is made everyone see that we all need each other, in a real day-to-day sort of way. That our personal responsibility includes charity, but that charity is a way of life every single day in every place we live and work…..for some folks it usually might have involved writing a check, but now, with money tight and people still wanting to help, it is also just being there for each other in our joys and struggles and work. Like you wrote, we are all in this together.

    Seriously, though…..there are a lot more folks out walking and sitting on front porches these last few weeks, I’ve noticed.

    When we get on the other side of all of this, I hope we remember that while we have lost our wealth, we have not lost that which is most important to us.

  29. Not that we shoudn’t be screaming lunatics about losing that wealth, however……

    who mentioned yesterday that George Soros’ wealth has increased during this “crisis”?

  30. OT WTF
    Nearly half of the 200 Boston teenagers interviewed for an informal poll said pop star Rihanna was responsible for the beating she allegedly took at the hands of her boyfriend, fellow music star Chris Brown, in February. Of those questioned, ages 12 to 19, 71 percent said that arguing was a normal part of a relationship; 44 percent said fighting was a routine occurrence. The results of the survey, conducted by the Boston Public Health Commission across the city and equally among boys and girls, are startling for local health workers who see a generation of youths who seem to have grown accustomed, even insensitive, to domestic violence.

    Looks like we have some future supporters of Sharia Law.

  31. Hey gagirl, people might actually start talking to each other face to face more without those bright shiney objects to hide behind. I had a link and I lost it, about how many cell phone contrracts are not being renewed monthly. Like you said, sitting on the porch is very relaxing. People are about to slow down and find out that Invention became the Mother of Necessity, instead of the other way around. I’m not sure how the younger bunch will fare though. They havent had a timewhen they actually had to relate to anybody without an object to do it for them. And bright shiney objects are seen as necessities to them. There will be withdrawal. But in the end, all of this will build their character, shave some points off their narcissim scale and give them a dose of what is hugely lacking–humility and reality.

  32. DE the young women are going to have to fight for what was already fought for and given them. Their complacency is at their own peril. My gen? Pfffffffft. We did what we had to do. The next gen got the residual advantages and they are throwing it away. Their problem now, not mine.

  33. “But in the end, all of this will build their character, shave some points off their narcissim scale and give them a dose of what is hugely lacking–humility and reality.”

    As a mom of teens, I can only hope!!!

  34. It’s funny that you mentioned mowing our own lawns…I just told my husband that I wanted to drop our lawn service and do of myself as I did when the kids were young.

  35. hmmm….suddendly my gardeners are actually doing more than mow, blow and go….weeding, trimming, seeding???? Do you think they realize that I could and probably should fire them and do it myself?

  36. Yards?? You mean y’all haven’t dug yours up and planted potatoes yet?

  37. Are you kidding? The ground is still frozen.

  38. ((((((waving to Ms UW))))))

    just got up, rubbing my eyes…its Sarurday 14th March here in Asia..after I posted lastnight, went to bed, the whole week has been rather busy, business picked up some last 3 weeks…hopefully it will continue to do so.

    Good morning everyone!

    Nancy Pelosi’s (unreal-plastic) smiley face love to spend money on anything just to show how powerful she is. What I seen so far since she became House Speaker, she was more dangerous than GWB and BHO put together. Her behavior(s) has been too “lunatic” for me to comprehend, in the sense that she tends to do things that has nothing to help California’s dire deficit (40 billion+?), save the mice (how many jobs can that create?), Threw her temper when she couldn’t fly the biggest bird (oneday she might request for POTUS’s plane to travel huh?) and worst of all action she ever did – ENABLED BHO to occupy white house.

    When I look at BHO (since primaries & GE) I saw a real looser in a leader, and that’s how I see Pelosi, Reid and Geithner. They blame GWB for everything that had gone wrong to this economy crisis. But they practise what GWB did. Preach one thing and then contradict themselves.

    yttik, I live in TownHouse, my potatoes, chillies, Spring Onion, Parsley are ready for harvesting…new ones are growing great.

    Lastnight on fox news, I watched those trucks “Feed America” (like an army convoy) carrying food for those who needed it. I said to myself: ” this is not recession, this is depression”.

  39. ACK she’s harvesting! I can’t even plant yet! Dang.

    Geeze Joey you look like you need some coffee!

  40. Ms UW, sometimes veggies and plants grown in pots get harvested faster, yunno. Thanks to new Agro tech! potatoes will take longer time…but the leaves are great for pan fried with garlics. I love eating raw tomatoes…right outta it vines. Small chillies is a must for my daily dip with…fowl smell delicious fermented shrimp paste. Sound yucky huh LOL

    On my 2nd coffee here!!! and awake

  41. Frequent lurker, here. 🙂

    I think people are looking to become more self-sufficient and community-and-neighbors sufficient.

    We are seriously battening down. We just bought a house (closes next month) on over a third of an acre. We are paying cash, will own it free and clear, and bought only about 1/4 the house we can technically “afford”. We now have zero debt, because we saw this disaster coming a few years ago, and started paying it all off. We will survive.

  42. Farmers’ markets! I blogged those on Do the Hopey Copey. http://hopeycopey.blogspot.com.

  43. Very wise, WMCB! I also paid my home off. Which is a good thing since my 401k is seriously in the crapper now. I figure I can ride this out. My car is also paid for. You were right to think ahead and you WILL survive!

    Of course, you do know that now that you have posted, you are required to continue to do so, else the Uppity Squad shall come find you with a hook and bring you back:)

    Star, I love Farmers Markets!

  44. joey I didn’t know that about the leaves!

    Have you ever eaten zucchini flowers? They are absolutely delicious! My grandfather used to grow a boatload of zucchini just to get the flowers. We would fight over them battered and sauteed and lots of salt! You have to grow a boatload because only the female zucchini produce flowers. No kidding. Now all zucchini produce them. Anyways, I found a farmers market a few years ago and there’s one guy who sells the flowers. I buy them up.

    Interesting phenomenon about zucchin. My dad called it Pass The Zucchini. At the end of the season, there is a scarey abundance of them–everyone gives them away. My father postulated that you could easily give a zucchini away and find the same one behind your door again two weeks later.

  45. Star, for some reason, your link takes me to the generic “blogger status” page.

  46. Star, I just went to your site and tried to post and YEESH it’s too much work to get a post up. That page about “DO YOU TRUST THIS SITE, blah blah has got to go.

    If you make it too hard for people to post, they just go away. K?

    I wanted to tell you how I got rid of Card Member Services calls. You have to report them to the DNC list web page. They get fined and believe me, they will leav you alone after that. report them EVERY time they call. I did it something like 14 times and then it stopped.

  47. Ms UW, about the potato leaves, sweet potato leaves and tapioca leaves – young leave shoots of course, were popular since the beginning of our ancestors time here. Since I belong to the one of aborigins in Borneo Island I learned to cook them. These leaves makes you fart alot, LOL. And people believe that it’s a good thing, since the “wind” in your tummy is a bad thing. Another thing, it’s supposedly good for blood circulation and diabetes…dunno whether it’s been proven, scientifically.

    Also potatoes and tapioca was the only staple food my people ate with dried meat and fish during the japanese invasion (world war II) for 5 long years. Rice was scares. It’s no suprise that these roots’ leaves became our traditional dishes till today.

    We don’t have zucchini here. But pumpkins and cucumber are in abundance. It can grow anywhere without much care. We cook pumpkin flowers and young shoot leaves with coconut milk. But I like them pan fried with dried salted fish or stinky shrimp paste and hot chillies (if you’ve tried thai food, then you’d know how hot those chillies are). Lotsa garlic!!!!

    Yesterday (friday 13th), our government reported that we need stimulus of our own. 70K people have lost jobs the last 3 months, and many graduates can’t find jobs. Crime rate climbs…

    Compare to USA, 70K jobless seems small. But not to a small country of 26million people. We have always fared better than neighboring countries, even during the 1988, 1997 downturn our economy still thrived. But NOT this time around. I can see the desperations around me at work, malls and the streets with less traffic. The signs have not been positive for near future.

    So…….. Let’s keep on gardening and pray things will turn ok soon enough. Even when its ok, I will still be gardening LOL

  48. well good tips here today.thanks all.thats why i love and support this sit.
    feed the kitty..

  49. Thank you foxy. I shall use it for Moderator Kitteh Bill’s 12 step program.

  50. joey, isn’t it interesting how the peasant recipes of ethnic groups stick around forever? When I heard the “arugula” flap, i thought, these snooty fools think arugula is some high class stuff. In Italy it grows wild and is one step up from dandelions. The old timers ate it when things were bad. You could grow arugula in your yard and it will take over. It has always been considered cheap greens. Now these snobs cranked up the price.

    I am sure the economy has hit you in the same way as it has hit here. It’s all a matter of scale but the feeling is the same. Hang with us and we will make it through this mess together.

  51. Star, I just went to your site and tried to post and YEESH it’s too much work to get a post up. That page about “DO YOU TRUST THIS SITE, blah blah has got to go.

    If you make it too hard for people to post, they just go away. K?

    I wanted to tell you how I got rid of Card Member Services calls. You have to report them to the DNC list web page. They get fined and believe me, they will leav you alone after that. report them EVERY time they call. I did it something like 14 times and then it stopped

    There are law firms trying to stop these calls–going to DNC does nothing that I can see…

    I don’t know what was wrong with my site…I can go to it… What is Do You Trust this Site? My Health site was on blogger for 3.5 yrs–I am never changing…Sorry you had trouble…

    http://hopeycopey.blogspot.com

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