Is it safe to go into the water?

Governor Chris Christie announced today ….

…….he’s running for the Republican nomination for President of the United States!! Calm down now, I know it’s hard to contain your excitement. This brings the number to 14! Fourteen Republicans have officially thrown their hats into the ring!

With an already crowded field, I have only one thing to say about Chris Christie jumping in:

(Also, the thread on Uppity’s post was getting pretty crowded with over 300 comments.)

BTW, this happens to be the 40th anniversary of the movie “Jaws”!


84 Responses

  1. LOL! “You’re going to need a bigger boat.” I immediately read that as a fat joke. A ton of those (mind the pun!) going around about Christie. We’ve not elected an overweight president since Grover Cleveland. So, add my (not-esteemed-by-me) governor to the list of delusional Republican candidates.

    Roz in NJ/NYC

  2. Hmmm… I should have said severely overweight since Bill Clinton was a bit on the chunky side.

    Roz in NJ/NYC

  3. Did he announce in Fort Lee? .

  4. *Waves to Roz* Did you get stuck in the traffic jam?

    Probably the most entertaining of the lot, he won’t cut it because he’s not all messed up on the Lord.

  5. Hi Uppity, *Waving back* Not the jam associated with “Bridgegate.” However, we were headed into the city the evening Black protesters blocked the Manhattan side of the Lincoln Tunnel, so we became victims of the colossal jam on the NJ side. A trip that normally takes about an hour to our apartment took us more than two! We had no idea what caused it until we heard about it later on the news. To say we were furious is a huge understatement!

    So glad your medical issues have been attended to. Wishing you a long and health-problems-free life!

    @AnnE. He announced in Livingston High School, his alma mater and where, I gather, he was class president for four years.

  6. Oh BARF.
    A FB friend just posted a big pic of Obama (originally posted by “Occupy Democrats”) with the text “SHARE – IF YOU WOULD VOTE FOR A THIRD OBAMA TERM IF YOU COULD”

    Click…’Block Updates From’…Click

  7. Just did a skim of the “Occupy Democrats’ page. Hmmm… Lots of big picture posts about Obama and Sanders….where’s Hillary? Surely she MUST have some positive reports or new photos of what she’s up to here…scroll scroll scroll scroll…..Nope, can’t seen to find her….

  8. Sorry about the “contaminating” link on the previous thread. I go to “that place” and HuffPo just to see what the extremists on both sides are slinging. “Godfather” side of me I guess….keep your friends close, your enemies closer. I was just so floored that Cruz would even attempt that tactic.

    I swear on the soul of my grandmother (my most solemn promise) that I will NEVER contaminate this sacred ground again.

  9. GWM4Hill
    You have to scroll all the way to June 23 to get a solely Hillary post at Occupy Democrats. On the way, you will pass 3 solely Bernie posts and 2 posts with both Bernie and Hillary.

  10. I swear on the soul of my grandmother (my most solemn promise) that I will NEVER contaminate this sacred ground again.


    It’s okay now. I hosed the place down.

  11. Occupy Democrats. Are those the same infants who tossed paper airplanes at wall street and conned a whole bunch of suckers to buy them LLBean tents only to leave when it got a little cold outside?

  12. Roz: That’s what you get for being white.

    Thanks for the good wishes.

  13. As for this post………RIP Roy Scheider. He was also great in this:

  14. I LOVED “All That Jazz” and have it on DVD. BTW, congrats to the US Women’s Soccer Team, 2-0 winners over Germany. On to the finals on Sunday. YOU GO, GIRLS!!!!

  15. imust, thanks for the new post! Love the “bigger boat” reference. I saw a few seconds of the Chris C. announcement. He was babbling about how he can work with the democrats. Yeah, sure.

    Ann Reinking was also amazing, I thought.

  16. Roz you forgot about Wm. Howard Taft. Just call him “tiny”.

  17. WOW. After all these depressing Pro-PresidentBernie posts from my FB friends, it brightens my morning to find I have at least one friend who GETS IT:


    A lot of people bitch and moan about “Wall Street” the rich, the banks, the campaign money, WTF ever, but you know what? We live in the real world. There is nothing inherently wrong with banks or Wall Street. They are an important part of the way our economy is set up. There is also nothing inherently wrong with labor unions, or corporations that provide us with jobs. What is wrong is the lack of balance, the greed and deregulation. The lack of proper oversight. That’s wrong. It harms people. We need to change that.

    Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, all these clowns. You think they’ll change they system? You’re a fool. If you want change and reform, then understand how the fucking system works and change it. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren provide a valuable function for us. They can’t change they system directly. But they can publicly lobby and inform and educate the public so that we can push Congress to initiate reform. Of course, we will need a Supreme Court that doesn’t so things like punish the EPA for being unfair to corporate polluters.

    Don’t put all your hopes on one person and then sit back and piss and moan about them not living up to your expectations. Recognize how our government and our economy is set up. That’s the reality. If you want to change it, you have to do it with a sustained effort. We need to elect better people to Congress and stay in their asses. We KNOW how the Republicans feel. We know what they’ve done, what they support, what they believe in. If we don’t support Hillary they will win. It’s really that simple.

    Hillary is running as a Democrat. She has embraced Obama’s Presidency, and as a Democrat she supports what her party wants. I know what Dems believe in, what they have done, and what their policies are. It’s not a dilemma for me at all. Hillary is a tough, smart, hardworking experienced politician who appreciates that she has to shift to the Left and she has. The bottom line for me, is that I will NEVER vote for a Republican. Their outrageous obstructionist conduct while the American people including myself, were hurting,, their political philosophy, their policies, their actions, are inimicable to my best interests.

    I know Hillary. She is not perfect. But she will have my support. Unwavering. And I will push her to do what I need her to do. The notion of allowing another Republican into the White House literally sickens me. I want the wealthy to pay their fair share of taxes. I want the minimum wage increased, I want universal healthcare, I want a safer, cleaner, environment, better schools, respect and support for science and scientific research, respect and support for better education. I want my civil rights and the civil rights of all Americans protected, not suppressed or undermined. I want to rely on diplomacy instead of war, and I want to see responsible gun owners support sensible gun control measures. I want to see a jobs bill that allows us to repair and upgrade our crumbling infrastructure. I want better oversight and regulation of our drug industry, our banks and financial services industry, and I do not want to see the Affordable Care Act repealed. I want good judges appointed to the Federal bench. The only person who has a snowball’s chance in Hell of getting me what I want is Hillary.

  18. I was watching MSNBC last night…..(I know, I know…), anyway, I caught the conversation after it started and they were saying that “Elizabeth Warren won’t rule out supporting Bernie Sanders.” They had it written across the bottom of the screen so you could really soak it in. And I thought, what the hay? Didn’t she come out as an early endorser of Hillary? Like she supported the Ready for Hillary PAC? Or am I remembering that wrong?

    Okay, here it is from Politico:

    Elizabeth Warren says it’s “too early to say” whether she’ll hit the campaign trail in support of her Senate colleague Bernie Sanders.
    “Bernie’s out talking about the issues that the American people want to hear about,” the Massachusetts Democratic senator told the Boston Herald Monday.
    Story Continued Below
    She did not rule out the possibility of campaigning for the Vermont senator, nor would she comment on the prospect of supporting other Democratic candidates like former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley or presumptive front-runner Hillary Clinton.
    “Bernie is there on the issues,” Warren said. “That’s what matters to a lot of

    Read more:

  19. Well Hillary might have to shift left to stop these moronic idealistic dipshits from giving the presidency to a Republican, not that it’s not what they deserve, mind you, but the truth is if she isn’t centrist in the general election, she’s going to be toast. No realistic working person in America wants to give everything they worked for away to deadbeats. It’s as simple as that. The middle class is simply HEAVING trying to pay for all the freebees. Only a centrist will attract them.

    At this moment, all the simpering GIMMEE whiners are a bigger problem for Hillary than the Republicans could ever be.

  20. Warren’s fractious, but she’s not stupid. She’s not going to touch this primary with a ten foot poll unless she clearly sees a frontrunner. If it’s the person the Regressives didn’t pick, it won’t matter, they’ll just go on pissing and whining and helping the Republicans with their behaviors. If it turns out to be someone they did pick, then I hope they are ready for a Republican president.

  21. Ann Reinking was a major force in the world of choreograhy. In fact, she still is. She was an awesome dancer with 2/3 of her body dominated by………legs. See video again for your proof.

  22. The way the MSNBC seemed to be spinning it was more like she was pro Bernie as opposed to pro Hillary. That’s what got me mad.

  23. Hillary has NOT moved to the left. Anyone who has not read It Takes A Village, published in early 1996, needs to read it. Anyone who can’t remember that she talks about income inequality and outlandish CEO pay therein needs to reread it. Btw, this was at a time when Elizabeth Warren was flipping foreclosed homes for profit. Hillary is the one who was ahead of the curve in pointing out that the middle class is getting screwed.

  24. Yeah but that’s not moving left by today’s definitions, Rebel. It’s just sense. When I think move to the left, I think oh yeahhhhhhh let’s pay for everybody’s college education, let’s give everybody a living wage even if they don’t work, let’s let everybody out of prison, let’s lower everyone else’s standard of living to raise someone else’s, Basically let’s make everybody poor and equal, and all the regular socialist-leaning babble. “Let’s” generally means me.

    To me, it shouldn’t take a village to raise your kids (Your meaning generic ‘your’). I deliberately chose not to have kids. That meant i didn’t want to raise kids. If I didn’t want to raise my own, why the hell would I want to raise everybody else’s? I don’t. Nobody raised me but my parents. If you can’t be a parent and raise your kids to have normal socially acceptable behaviors instead of those of a barnyard animal, then do. not. spawn. If you can’t afford a child then learn how not to have one until you can afford it. It’s pretty easy, really. Schools have lost the ability to teach anything half the time because they are busy being surrogate parents to other people’s kids. Today, people treat having kids like they treat spending money. They buy over their heads and then don’t want to pay their bills. They want all the consolations and none of the consequences. Same with having kids, too many parents want all the consolations and none of the consequences, without regard to future parenting. That’s my argument and I’m sticking to it.

  25. There can never be the coveted “Income Equality”. The person who gives you your burgers is not the same level of skill as the guy who builds your room addition. Basically, if it’s a job where you are more easily replaceable, it is not going to be regarded as worthy of equal pay to an electrical engineer who is developing the technology for a new medical device. It is simply not a practical, logical idea. If it were, nobody would ever have the incentive to grow, excel or advance themselves. This would result in a waste of skill and knowledge…and progress…and the part of democracy that allows for competition and personal growth on merit.

  26. imust, it’s NBC, what do you expect? When was the last time you relied on them for Truth. They’ll spin anything the way they want it to come out.

  27. I know, I know……and how many people are actually watching that program anyway right?!

  28. Up, I don’t think anyone, especially Hillary, expects skilled and unskilled workers to be paid more or less equally. My understanding of income inequality is that we now have those at the top (some of whom do not possess valuable skills) making so much more than those at the bottom. And, as a consequence, the middle class is disappearing. The relationship between skills and income is also disappearing unfortunately. Some of the top 1% we hear so much about are wealthy due to unearned income rather than earned income which is often taxed at a higher rate than investment income. The economy is out of balance.

  29. What say you New Yorkers about the latest between de Blasio and Cuomo? There’s something about de Blasio that bothers me, but I’m not a NYer so what do I know?

    Mayor Bill de Blasio, in candid and searing words rarely employed by elected officials of his stature, accused Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo on Tuesday of stymieing New York City’s legislative goals out of personal pettiness, “game-playing” and a desire for “revenge.”

    In an extraordinary interview, Mr. de Blasio, appearing to unburden himself of months’ worth of frustrations, said that Mr. Cuomo — who, like the mayor, is a Democrat — “did not act in the interests” of New Yorkers by blocking measures like reforming rent laws and the mayor’s long-term ability to control the city’s public schools


  30. DiBlasio is an asshole and Cuomo is a dick. May the best prick win.

    And I was a BIG fan of Mario Cuomo. Andrew is not Mario and I bet Andrew’s brother Chris votes for his opponents too!

  31. It Takes a Village refers to everyone having a stake and a role in in a kid’s upbringing. Think of teachers, scout leaders, mentors, athletic coaches, youth group leaders, and Mrs. Castellano down the block yelling at kids for doing something wrong when their parents couldn’t see them (she’d get sued today!). The next generations are going to be the ones responsible for running our country and economy when we are too old to do so. It behooves us to make sure they’re up to the task.

    Income inequality isn’t about a CEO and a janitor making the same salary. it’s about the gap. It’s a metric that historically has shown the decline and demise of a culture or civilization. The bigger the gap, the closer your culture is to doom.

  32. I agree with you Sophie. The gap gets wider and we’re losing the middle as in the middle class.

  33. What Sophie said. Bravo.

  34. , and Mrs. Castellano down the block yelling at kids for doing something wrong when their parents couldn’t see them

    Hey she lived on MY block! In five different houses!

  35. Sophie, about the gap. It’s the same gap we’ve pretty much always had, it’s just that there are far fewer jobs. So burger slinging is no longer reserved for HS students on summer vacation. Now you see people trying to raise families doing it. Toss in the growing devaluation of the dollar because we keep printing money with no value to back it up, ever-rising prices with stagnant wages, and even a person in a good paying job feels squeezed. If we adjusted the ‘wage gap’ right now, we would still have the same problems. Whats the difference if we raise wages if there aren’t enough decent jobs with which to earn a better wage? Think, Gee the job I’ve always wanted pays more now, but I can’t have the job”.

    When i figure out what I just said, I’ll let you know.

  36. Oh no……….Cuomo is NOT his father’s son. NOT AT ALL. He’s a terrible governor. Terrible. I agree about Chris. He should have been the one to enter politics and Andrew should have gone into….into……..who cares long as he’s not in charge of anything

    DiBlasio is the quintessential example of power going to one’s head. And a huge reminder of why we should be more careful to whom we give power.

  37. Rebel, investment income is what the majority of middle class senors rely on in their retirement. They got KILLED in 2008. The silent wounds caused by dividends being reduced drastically. Investing is not just about big shots, it’s about regular people shoring up for their future. It’s just that the vultures at the top have figured out a way to manipulate stocks to their advantage. The taxing of capital gains is standard for all. the problem doesn’t lie in that so much as in lack of OVERSIGHT and REGULATIONS. Night trading. Did you know you can buy stocks at night?? No? That’s because you can’t. Only the big boys can, so you can wake up in the morning and wonder how your stock opened so low and then rose because those fuckers sold high and bought back in low.

  38. Chris Christie continues his charm offensive. You got a problem?

  39. Beata, for a second, I was shaking my head, going THAT’S his campaign spot?? Then I realized, lol.

    Speaking of Chris Christie, I was watching Rachel Maddow, (I know, I know…) anyway, she did a story on Christie accepting the governor of Maine’s endorsement today. The governor, LePage is going to be investigated for using his office for revenge against a political enemy! Irony much?

  40. As ever, what Sophie says.

  41. File this one under the heading of “How Stupid Can You Be”. A manufacturer is selling a cellphone case that looks just like a GUN when tucked into your back pocket. You can’t see it’s not a gun until you pull it out of your pocket.

    Please note, Uppity, I kept my promise…a non-contaminating link!

  42. BTW….I ask all of you, even the cat lovers, to say a prayer for my “little boy” dog of 10 years. I got him when he was 4 years old to keep him from going to a shelter and found out in the past few days from his vet that he is coming to the end of his journey on earth.

  43. Oh Voting, I am so sorry. I am a cat lover but also have a wonderful dog. I know how it feels to lose one and I wish there was a way to make it better, but I know there is not. I do know this: Your dog thanks you for saving him –and all the love you give him. The worst part of having a pet is losing them. But it’s still worth it, isn’t it. They take a piece of us with them when they leave us, but they also leave a piece of themselves behind.

  44. Re: Phone case that looks like a gun: Nice way to get your ass shot by somebody who has a REAL gun.

  45. As ever, what Sophie says.

    I’m outnumbered! *Throws self on floor, throws fit*

  46. Jon Stewart on the sibling rivalry between Andrew and Chris Cuomo.

  47. WOuldn’t be surprised if those two brothers hate each other. It’s a No Contest. Chris should be governor, Andrew should be a mafia bag man. What a shithead. He’s obviously an embarrassment to Chris.

  48. VotingHillary, I am sorry to hear this. Losing a pet is the greatest pain anyone can go through. What Upps said. They are never truly gone.

    I hope this brightens yours (and everyone’s!) day. What a guy! :^D


    Saudi Arabian billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal has said he will donate his $32bn (£20bn; €29bn) personal fortune to charity.

    The 60-year-old nephew of King Salman is one of the world’s richest people.

    He said he had been inspired by the Gates Foundation, set up by Bill and Melinda Gates in 1997.

    The money would be used to “foster cultural understanding”, “empower women”, and “provide vital disaster relief”, among other things, he said.
    Mr Gates praised the decision, calling it an “inspiration to all of us working in philanthropy around the world”.

    Prince Alwaleed is at number 34 on the Forbes list of the world’s richest people.

    The money will go to the prince’s charitable organisation, Alwaleed Philanthropies, to which he has already donated $3.5bn.
    The prince, who does not hold an official government position, is chairman of investment firm Kingdom Holding Company.

    The company owns stakes in hotels The Four Seasons, Fairmont and Raffles, as well as News Corp, Citigroup, Twitter and Apple.
    The prince will be donating his personal wealth. “This is very much separate from my ownership in Kingdom Holding,” he said at the announcement.

    “Philanthropy is a personal responsibility, which I embarked upon more than three decades ago and is an intrinsic part of my Islamic faith,” he added in a statement.

    He said he hoped the gift would “help build bridges to foster cultural understanding, develop communities, empower women, enable youth, provide vital disaster relief and create a more tolerant and accepting world”.

    Prince Alwaleed’s announcement comes during the holy month of Ramadan, when Muslims are encouraged to give charity and help the needy.

    He said the donation would take place over several years and would be overseen by a board of trustees, which he will head.

  49. A Saud giving up his billions? I’ll believe it when I see it.

  50. Jim Webb announced.

  51. And Jim Webb is in the race. Will he pull Hillary to the right? Does he stand a chance of winning if none of his opponents uses a racial slur?

  52. He took a swipe at Hillary about the Iraq war vote. Here we go again. Another one who wasn’t in the senate at the time to cast a vote….talking about how he was against the war!

    From his announcement, he sounds like he’s more of a populist.

  53. Bully for Jim Webb. *Yawn*

  54. I liked Webb when he was on “Dragnet”. Kind of a stiff, never moved his arms when he walked, but otherwise an okay guy.

  55. Hahahaha Beata, blog comedian

  56. 😆

  57. We’ll see. The Saudi has already donated $3.5 billion.

    Who’s Jim Webb?

  58. What happened to mc whatever?

  59. GWM, here he is.

  60. Who’s Mc, imust? Gawd the D’s are starting to look as stupid as the R’s with these candidates from Nothing.

  61. GWM, he probably donated it to the NYCity mosque project at Ground Zero. The Saudi royals and ‘upper class’ are known for their religious hypocrasy, eg their declarations vs. their depraved practices, along with their willingness to fund extremely shady people in the ME, whilst secretly wishing we would nuke Iran. Candles with wicks on both ends were made for these guys. hey are best at being decadent, compulsively opulent and generally disgusting whilst dispatching Morality Police everywhere beyond their palaces, particularly to lord over women. They also own a large chunk of America, including major interest in Disneyworld. I don’t trust a one of them and this is why I don’t believe this guy. There’s gotta be a hook. Yeah, I know, I’m jaded.

  62. Who’s Mc, imust?

    Now see there…shows how much I remember him! It’s not Mc, it’s O’, as in O’Malley! And I’m Irish, you’d think I’d remember!

    Last time I checked he was polling at about 1%

  63. LMFAO!!!

    The Web site for Chris Christie‘s PAC is LeadershipMattersForAmerica.Org

    Seriously, LMFAO!

  64. OMG, that acronym is hilarious and so spot on!

  65. OMG! ObeseMaleGovernors!

  66. LOL, imust! That’s perfect.

    LOL! LumpOfLard!

  67. Ha! Good one Beata!

    Hey Sophie from CT! Did you go to this?

  68. HAHAHA it’s LMFAO. Morons. The jokes just keep writing themselves.

  69. And I’m Irish, you’d think I’d remember!

    The Irish tend to sweep their biggest embarrassments under the rug.

  70. Hey! …’re right…it’s true!

  71. Yes, imust, I was at that one!

  72. Love the funny acronyms! You gals are on a roll!

    I didn’t know the Saudis owned all those hotels. Did I tell you guys I’ve been to Raffles in Singapore in the late 80s with boyfriend. I had a Singapore Sling in their famous Long Bar where writers like Somerset Maugham used to hang out.

  73. Jim Webb? Who the? I was really hoping the dems weren’t going to be as embarrassing as the rethugs and having every tom dick & harry running for prez.

  74. Yeah imust, cause the Italians don’t do that…………

  75. The latest from Occupy Democrats:

    “Only in America can you raise 15 million from 250,000 donors and get crowds of 10,000 to hear you speak and still have the media say you’re not a viable candidate (Sanders)….
    While this guy gets treated as a serious contender for the Presidency (Trump)

    How does this make any sense? Bernie Sanders is as serious a contender as anyone running for the presidency, if not more!
    Read more here:
    Image by Occupy Democrats, LIKE our page for more!


    I don’t know ANY media outlets who don’t think Trump is a buffoon, while they are already rolling over and peeing on themselves over Bernie.

  76. Up, I’m not knocking investment income for retirees or anyone of modest means. But it’s really wrong that billionaires pay a lower tax rate than working folks who, you point out, often don’t make enough to live on. That’s my objection.
    Jim Webb thinks the Iraq War was a really bad idea, but the Vietnam War was just great!
    He’s another strange dude who wants attention by running against the most credible woman candidate in history. Is Hillary’s gender a factor in bringing all these marginal characters into the race? I don’t know, but the weirdos are sure coming out of the woodwork.

  77. And Bernie would be crushed by GOP Super Pacs. 15 million is not a big haul in the era of Citizens United. That’s sad but true. Is Occupy going to take on the Kochs with rhetoric alone? They are deluded children in many ways.

  78. Rebel I do agree with you about the taxes. But taxes for working and capital gains taxes are different. With investments, you take a risk. If you lose, don’t expect the gvt to give you anything for it, however, if you win, they take. That’s why capital gain taxes are lower. However, I would not object to a higher cap gain rate for the kind of people who are trading at night in the dark and manipulating the stocks. However, investment in stocks is a major factor in keeping companies going. The big boys help make that happen. It’s just that they count the cards. You would get thrown out of a casino for doing that. Worse yet, they even hold some of the cards. Once again, it’s about lack of regulation. Dereg has ruined this country. I could do hours on it. Nowhere has it benefited the middle class or working stiffs. At all. The very worse of the lot are exempt from monopoly behavior and price fixing. See Insurance Companies. They are running wild out of control.

    As for webb, he’s a gnat.

  79. GWM, we can tell Occupy Democrats that the reason “achieving” all that still means he’s not viable is because his competition raised $45 Million and Sarah Palin drew crowds 4x the size of his.

  80. Any socialist making Marxist class warfare arguments ought to be able to get a lot more than 10,000 people at his rally/lecture in Madison, Wisconsin. That’s not exactly “mainstream” America, believe me.

  81. Up, I agree that regulation and accountability are the keys to a healthy, fair economy. That’s one of the many reasons I support Hillary rather than Sanders who just wants to blow up the whole economic system. Over all, the free enterprise system, when properly regulated, has served our nation very well. As someone once said, it’s the worst economic system– except for all the others.

  82. Happy 4th Uppityites!

    And just to let you know, it’s all Bill’s and now Hillary’s fault!

  83. You too Fredster!


  84. Oh yeah. Welfare is so ‘gutted’ that only half the country is on it.

    As I recall, the idea was to explain to deadbeats that welfare is not something you stay on for life and then teach your kids how to do the same. The idea was We Will Help You and You Need To Help Yourself Too. How awful.

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